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 Post subject: Re: Technical graphs and images
PostPosted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 5:36 pm 
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This one shows cell balancing done on all 80 cells in Phev hv battery. See previous image on CMU.

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This is done while charging from the grid or by the dealer.

From the older image that was here it says,

For those so inclined it says underneath this image.
Max voltage per cell =4.1 volts x 80 cells = 328 volts
Min voltage per cell =3.55 volts x 80 cells = 284 volts

Image from MMC.

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 Post subject: Re: Technical graphs and images
PostPosted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 6:16 pm 
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This one is the Phev models with electric heater.

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Image from MMC.

Now from the old image that was here I wrote,

For people in cold climates it says underneath this image that about 10 C or more difference between the setting of the climate control and temp of the interior starts the petrol motor. It also says max output of electric heater is 4.25kw.

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 Post subject: Re: Technical graphs and images
PostPosted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 9:00 pm 
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Another,

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Those Phev models without the electric heater.

Image from MMC.

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 Post subject: Re: Technical graphs and images
PostPosted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 9:13 pm 
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Here is the network of the Phev.

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The EV Remote module on the left hand side of the diagram is where we connect our phones to control heating lights etc.

Image from MMC.

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 Post subject: Re: Technical graphs and images
PostPosted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 9:20 pm 
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Speaking of EV Remote,

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Image from MMC.

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 Post subject: Re: Technical graphs and images
PostPosted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 9:26 pm 
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And how it connects to the canbus,

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 Post subject: Re: Technical graphs and images
PostPosted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 10:01 pm 
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I am just showing this for comparison because it was already in this Phev document.

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The Mitsubishi I-MIEV canbus network.

Compare with Phev canbus network above and how Mitsubishi now use gateways to "talk" to other parts of the network.

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 Post subject: Re: Technical graphs and images
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jaapv wrote:
I suppose that by “Couple”, “Torque" is meant

Could mean when the clutch engages for ICE direct drive to the wheels?

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I would need to see the original text.

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 Post subject: Re: Technical graphs and images
PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 2015 1:00 pm 
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Regulo wrote:
jaapv wrote:
I suppose that by “Couple”, “Torque" is meant

Could mean when the clutch engages for ICE direct drive to the wheels?

Could .... But is not ;) the chart is about "parallel mode and charging". The green line shows how much torque is needed to maintain a specific speed on a flat road with no wind. The red line shows how much torque is available at that speed. The difference shows how much is available for recharging.

What the text says is that as soon as more torque is needed for driving (accelerating, climbing, head wind) the charging is cut off.

Not all of the available surplus torque is used for charging as otherwise the charge current would be way to high and damaging to the battery. Unfortunately, when you need more torque because of driving circumstances, the car reduces the amount of torque used for charging instead of instead of increase engine output. For solo driving, that's not so ,icy an issue. When towing, it is the effect that prevents you from maintaining decent SOC. I did a separate thread on this topic.


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