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 Post subject: Re: Technical graphs and images
PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 2015 6:46 pm 
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Ok I only put this in for mainly what it says underneath.

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Now its says underneath that only 70% of the 12kWhh HV battery in the Phev is used . 12 x 0.7 = 8.4

So there is only 8.4kWh usable in the High Voltage (HV) drive battery.

Notice the top right side of the image where it shows 8.6 x 8.4 = 73km (8.6km/kWh from red box on display x 8.4kWh usable HV battery capacity gives 72.24km) in ev mode.

If only I could get those figures. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:...... I am still laughing.

It also says if we can get 17kWh/100km or less in the display where the red box is we should get about 50km or more in ev mode.

Around town where I live (60kph speed limit) when the traffic is light (very few red lights) I can get about 50kms.

Image from MMC via anko.

Regards Trex.


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 Post subject: Re: Technical graphs and images
PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2015 5:59 pm 
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Wow, thanks a million guys, this is the best ever post, so much information for those who are interested in the technology.


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 Post subject: Re: Technical graphs and images
PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2015 6:38 pm 
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ufo wrote:
Wow, thanks a million guys, this is the best ever post, so much information for those who are interested in the technology.


Gday ufo,

This is what my father (deceased) would say to a compliment like yours : "Aw shucks I bet you say that to all the boys ". :lol: :lol: I should put this into context in that he became very embarrassed and uneasy when receiving the many awards given to him through his life for engineering inventions and charity work. It was his way of joking after receiving accolades.

But thanks for that mate. :oops: Its taken quite a few hours to wade through anko's pdf and post this information but I have enjoyed it and have learnt a lot of information I did not know myself. I am on holidays at the moment and am sick of going fishing and the pub etc by myself (my friends and wife are working) so doing this has kept me off the street, and saved me money. :lol:

I am about 4hrs north of you in Sydney near Port Macquarie.

Regards Trex.


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 Post subject: Re: Technical graphs and images
PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2015 8:04 pm 
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Trex wrote:
ufo wrote:
Wow, thanks a million guys, this is the best ever post, so much information for those who are interested in the technology.


Gday ufo,

This is what my father (deceased) would say to a compliment like yours : "Aw shucks I bet you say that to all the boys ". :lol: :lol:

But thanks for that mate. :oops: Its taken quite a few hours to wade through anko's pdf and post this information but I have enjoyed it and have learnt a lot of information I did not know myself. I am on holidays at the moment and am sick of going fishing and the pub etc by myself (my friends and wife are working) so doing this has kept me off the street, and saved me money. :lol:

I am about 4hrs north of you in Sydney near Port Macquarie.

Regards Trex.


G'day Trex,

Well, no I don't say that to all boys, I said it very honestly appreciating that it would take a lot of effort and time to put it together. Being on the forum since last June when I got my PHEV and finding so many repetitive subjects were becoming bit boring so yours was very fresh and informative and appreciated.
I am in South Dural in Sydney.

Cheers


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 Post subject: Re: Technical graphs and images
PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2015 11:06 pm 
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On we go,

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Front electric motor.

Note that lovely flat torque from 0 to about 55kph.

Image from MMC.

Regards Trex.


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 Post subject: Re: Technical graphs and images
PostPosted: Tue Mar 10, 2015 11:39 pm 
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As before (see post above )but rear electric motor and even more lovely torque. :D

Image from MMC.

Regards Trex.


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 Post subject: Re: Technical graphs and images
PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 12:00 am 
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Comparing it to a 2lt normal petrol model Outlander.

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Images from MMC.

Regards Trex.


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 Post subject: Re: Technical graphs and images
PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 1:18 am 
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Not sure this is a true comparison with a conventional petrol model as the multiple gears would multiply the torque available.

But interesting and thanks a lot for this information, it is invaluable in understanding what really goes on.

Regards Ian


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 Post subject: Re: Technical graphs and images
PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 8:31 am 
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Great graphs!

Thanks for sharing!


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 Post subject: Re: Technical graphs and images
PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 11:13 am 
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ian4x4 wrote:
Not sure this is a true comparison with a conventional petrol model as the multiple gears would multiply the torque available.

But interesting and thanks a lot for this information, it is invaluable in understanding what really goes on.

RPM's of the E-motors is way higher than RPM of the 4J11 engine. So reduction of RPM is much more, I think even in the lowest possible gear. More reduction of RPM means more true at the wheels :lol:

To make the comparison easier, the E-motors provide 120 kW at 55 km/h slowly going down to 110 kW at 120 km/h. Don't think that, even with all the gears in the world, you will bear able to get that from the 4J11 engine.


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