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 Post subject: Re: Extracting useful data from your OBDII port
PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2015 8:55 pm 
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As a matter of fact it is. Until you turn on the heater or aircon, that is. As these are excluded from the power meter.

The real surprise ( :evil: ) is the instantaneous fuel consumption. There are times at which the engine is running AND consuming fuel where the dashboard says it is not.


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 Post subject: Re: Extracting useful data from your OBDII port
PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2015 9:14 pm 
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anko wrote:
The real surprise ( :evil: ) is the instantaneous fuel consumption. There are times at which the engine is running AND consuming fuel where the dashboard says it is not.


My OBD2 HUD gave the same.

I think at the time jaapv commented that the dash is showing energy flow, and not if the equipment is operating or not.

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 Post subject: Re: Extracting useful data from your OBDII port
PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2015 10:37 pm 
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I think I may have even said so myself. But I wasn't referring to the energy flow diagrams, but the instantaneous fuel consumption dial (right most of three dials). It can easily show no activity, even though the engine is running and consuming 2 or 3 liters / 100 km.


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 Post subject: Re: Extracting useful data from your OBDII port
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anko wrote:
the instantaneous fuel consumption dial (right most of three dials). It can easily show no activity...


Wow those "dials" are so bad, I can't believe someone came up with that screen. I never use it, MMCS is either on split screen Range+Map, or sometimes the text info screen which shows l/100km and all the other numbers (and always 100% EV for short trips of course!). Very rarely the middle screen to show others roughly what the car is doing.
I do like the "engine / tyre / battery flow" small screen on the dash. I picked up a lazy foot not pressing the brake enough by noticing some current from the battery to the wheel when stationary a while back. "Subtract one leaf for you, sir!" :lol:
What MMCS and dash screen do others sit on in day to day driving (and why)?

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 Post subject: Re: Extracting useful data from your OBDII port
PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2015 1:00 am 
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anko wrote:
As a matter of fact it is. Until you turn on the heater or aircon, that is. As these are excluded from the power meter.

The real surprise ( :evil: ) is the instantaneous fuel consumption. There are times at which the engine is running AND consuming fuel where the dashboard says it is not.


Thanks.

But there is a separate dial for that (ac and heater) that you can add to the power meter, yes?

The scale on the power meter is very coarse, jumps of 3.75kw I think, which is a bit primitive.

Just offhand what was the speed limit?


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 Post subject: Re: Extracting useful data from your OBDII port
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I do notice the ICE operating and consuming petrol without providing any useful energy, don't recall exactly how much from the HUD. Happens mainly, the first time the ICE fires up when driving. You see the blue arrow blinking on the energy flow screen on the dash.

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 Post subject: Re: Extracting useful data from your OBDII port
PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2015 4:03 am 
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gwatpe wrote:
I do notice the ICE operating and consuming petrol without providing any useful energy, don't recall exactly how much from the HUD. Happens mainly, the first time the ICE fires up when driving. You see the blue arrow blinking on the energy flow screen on the dash.

Yes. But also when coasting in parallel hybrid mode. You lift your foot of the gas. Orange arrow disappears and fuel consumption seems to go to 0. But engine keeps running and consuming fuel.


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 Post subject: Re: Extracting useful data from your OBDII port
PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2015 4:06 am 
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Trex wrote:
As a matter of fact it is. Until you turn on the heater or aircon, that is. As these are excluded from the power meter.
Haven't found those yet. Nor looked for them.
Trex wrote:
Just offhand what was the speed limit?
You mean max speed? During that 7 minute movies? About 70 km/h.


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 Post subject: Re: Extracting useful data from your OBDII port
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Sorry in my previous post that should have been i-610.
Amazon have this unavailable and I can't seem to find a UK distributor.


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 Post subject: Re: Extracting useful data from your OBDII port
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