Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV Forum

It is currently Fri Aug 23, 2019 5:32 am

All times are UTC - 8 hours [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 41 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2, 3, 4, 5  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: Winter Tyres on PHEV
PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 9:05 am 
Offline

Joined: Mon Aug 29, 2016 3:54 am
Posts: 235
Location: East Riding of Yorkshire
I've been corresponding with Mitsubishi UK Customer Services regarding Winter Tyres and today received the following reply :shock:

Quote:
Dear Mr XXXXX,

Thank you for your e-mail.

The PHEV has never been tested or homologated with winter tyres, therefore we cannot recommend having winter tyres fitted.


Yours sincerely,

XXXXX


So that means the handbook is wrong :?

Image

The NL website is wrong :?

https://shop.mitsubishi-motors.nl/cat/b ... bandensets

Also the PHEV must be illegal to drive in many European countries during winter where they are compulsory such as Austria, Czech Republic, Finland, Germany, Slovakia and Sweden :o

http://www.theaa.com/motoring_advice/ov ... tyres.html

My dealer has offered me a set of 16" Steel wheels like these with winter tyres. They are a lot more expensive than in the NL - he obviously doesn't know they can't be fitted here and I guess Brexit is to blame for the price difference not Rip off Britain :roll:

Image

Such a shame after 2 weeks PHEV ownership to experience this kind of service - it took me 16 years to feel like this about Land Rover :(

_________________
Image

Gone - Lexus RC 300h F Sport, Disco Sport, RRSports, Mini One, MGTF, Freelander 2s, Jag X-type, Disco 2s, Freelander 1s, Landcruiser, Mondeo, Escort, Orion, Astra GTE, Xr3i, Renault 5/19/18, Fiesta 1300s, Allegro, Avenger, Honda MTX, Yamaha FS1E


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Winter Tyres on PHEV
PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 10:40 am 
Offline

Joined: Mon Dec 01, 2014 11:30 am
Posts: 3404
Location: Netherlands, Utrecht area
It would be painful if it wasn't so funny. Or did I get that backasswards? ;)


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Winter Tyres on PHEV
PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 10:54 am 
Offline

Joined: Mon Aug 15, 2016 10:43 am
Posts: 269
Location: Forres, Scotland, UK. 2014 GX4h with clear rear light lenses.
Does make you wonder if anyone knows anything at all about anything these days. Especially as everybody now has a university degree. I expect Mitsubishi UK are terrified of litigation. The instruction manual seems to consist mainly of WARNINGS!. So are those 18" PHEV wheels and tyres in the Netherlands £1500 for four, or just the one? Presumably one could order them from Mitsubishi NL and fit them in the UK - they look like the same wheels. I would like some winter tyres/wheels for my PHEV (I've always had them on my Smart car and they're very useful) but I don't think I want black, 16" steel wheels. They don't look very nice do they. How would the PHEV tyre pressure sensors work? Another good reason to have an extra set of wheels for the winter is so you have at least one set of alloys not rotted by salt. That polished/lacquered alloy finish won't last long with salt anywhere near it.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Winter Tyres on PHEV
PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 11:29 am 
Offline

Joined: Mon Aug 29, 2016 3:54 am
Posts: 235
Location: East Riding of Yorkshire
UK Dealers quoted £2764 for matching set of 18" alloys without tyres :shock:

The price in NL is for a set with tyres and I'm no maths genius but it looks like a big difference between UK and EU prices :roll:

I've contacted Mitsubishi NL and been advised I can't order them for UK delivery as they must be collected from NL dealer :(

I live very nr Hull ferry so tempted to go over and collect but with my luck....... :oops:

Dealer says they would need to program second set first time then I can switch after myself :?

_________________
Image

Gone - Lexus RC 300h F Sport, Disco Sport, RRSports, Mini One, MGTF, Freelander 2s, Jag X-type, Disco 2s, Freelander 1s, Landcruiser, Mondeo, Escort, Orion, Astra GTE, Xr3i, Renault 5/19/18, Fiesta 1300s, Allegro, Avenger, Honda MTX, Yamaha FS1E


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Winter Tyres on PHEV
PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2016 1:20 am 
Offline

Joined: Wed Jul 23, 2014 6:08 am
Posts: 148
Location: Northumberland
Not sure if this helps - I got these a couple of years ago. Been fine for two winters. I just switch the sensor from A to B or vice versa each swop.

I sent the TPMS sensors to wheelbase, they fitted them and sent the wheels out with tpms/tyres fitted. All I had to do was stick them on and get the TPMS calibration done at my local Mits garage.

TPMS Sensors
Cost £121.87 from Celtic Mitsubishi - 01792 659555 - Mark or Ceri

Wheels & Tyres
Cost £1109.00
Tekno RX7 Silver 18" 8J ET40
Vredestein Wintrac 4 Xtreme - 225/55/18 98V
Wheelbase (G.B.) Limited - 0845 500 4001 - Damian
http://www.wheelbasealloys.com/


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Winter Tyres on PHEV
PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2016 1:57 am 
Offline

Joined: Mon Aug 29, 2016 3:54 am
Posts: 235
Location: East Riding of Yorkshire
Cheers Bilbo59 8-)

I did look at them but they needed adaptor rings to fit - to avoid insurance and warranty questions I prefer to fit genuine parts but I appreciate the info - the TPMS are definitely cheaper than quoted by my dealer :mrgreen:

_________________
Image

Gone - Lexus RC 300h F Sport, Disco Sport, RRSports, Mini One, MGTF, Freelander 2s, Jag X-type, Disco 2s, Freelander 1s, Landcruiser, Mondeo, Escort, Orion, Astra GTE, Xr3i, Renault 5/19/18, Fiesta 1300s, Allegro, Avenger, Honda MTX, Yamaha FS1E


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Winter Tyres on PHEV
PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2016 2:03 am 
Offline

Joined: Mon Aug 29, 2016 3:54 am
Posts: 235
Location: East Riding of Yorkshire
I've now had a reply after I asked them to clarify the first email above as follows :?

Quote:
Dear Mr XXXXX,

Thank you for your e-mail.

As advised in my previous e-mail, here in the UK The PHEV has never been tested or homologated with winter tyres, therefore we cannot recommend having winter tyres fitted.

That said, if you use exactly the same size of tyre and the same manufacture of the four tyres you can fit them to your vehicle and there shouldn’t be an issue.


Yours sincerely,

XXXXX


I give up - we're still part of EU and Mitsubish NL are selling Winter sets at a fraction of the price in UK so this makes no sense :evil:

I think I will just see how it goes on the Factory Toyos as it's just not worth the hassle :roll:

I was hoping for a better ownership experience but it appears the badge may be different but the aftercare is as bad :(

_________________
Image

Gone - Lexus RC 300h F Sport, Disco Sport, RRSports, Mini One, MGTF, Freelander 2s, Jag X-type, Disco 2s, Freelander 1s, Landcruiser, Mondeo, Escort, Orion, Astra GTE, Xr3i, Renault 5/19/18, Fiesta 1300s, Allegro, Avenger, Honda MTX, Yamaha FS1E


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Winter Tyres on PHEV
PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2016 10:16 am 
Offline

Joined: Thu Oct 06, 2016 10:00 am
Posts: 1
I'm having fun getting a new set of tyre/wheels for my 2014 model.

We live in Inverness and the OE Toyos have coped okay with our snow, but this year I need to travel the A9 to Edinburgh weekly.

The car was in for a service last week and I pre-arranged the garage getting me a set of Michelin Lattitude cross tyres.

Went in to discover they had got 225/60 18 and not 225/55 18.

I left that morning under the impression thay were fitting them but on returning they said they were too big....doh.

Seemingly the Police up here run an Outlander on 16" wheels with 205/70 16's on them, which is in fact very close to the overall circumfernce of the 18" tyres.

I have now spent a week going back and forward with the garage while they continually keep trying to get me to take an incorrect size fitment or cheap makes. Their 16" wheels are £114.45 each plus VAT and they can't supply my preferred brand of tyres. I asked about the TPMS sensors yesterday and they were stumped.

We are getting close to the bad weather and I'm no further forward. Been looking at Wheelbase, but don't think half their 16" wheel options meet the technical spec in the handbook. Bear in mind changing wheels etc can invalidate insurance too if you are not following the manufacturer's guidelines.

I'm probably going to end up getting whatever winter tyre in the original size I can get before they are all gone.

It's a total nightmare and the garage has likely lost a new car sale too as my wife was looking for a new vehicle.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Winter Tyres on PHEV
PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2016 10:26 am 
Offline

Joined: Mon Aug 29, 2016 3:54 am
Posts: 235
Location: East Riding of Yorkshire
I would never run a different size than handbook due to likelihood of insurance/warranty issues - I also worried in event of accident modification may open a can of worms so I'm shocked a dealer got it wrong and the Police fit something different than book :shock:

We could do with a second car and I thought about a SWB Shogun - now I'm no longer a LR buyer it looked good value but this fiasco means I will wait a bit longer before deciding :?

The 16" are about £100 cheaper a set than I've been quoted - presumably steel :?:
*Edit* missed the +vat so about the same :oops:

I emailed 3 local dealers - only 1 responded :(

_________________
Image

Gone - Lexus RC 300h F Sport, Disco Sport, RRSports, Mini One, MGTF, Freelander 2s, Jag X-type, Disco 2s, Freelander 1s, Landcruiser, Mondeo, Escort, Orion, Astra GTE, Xr3i, Renault 5/19/18, Fiesta 1300s, Allegro, Avenger, Honda MTX, Yamaha FS1E


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Winter Tyres on PHEV
PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2016 2:12 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sun Nov 09, 2014 4:47 am
Posts: 108
Location: Sollentuna, Sweden
Hi, just for your info. I use Nokian Hakkapeliitta8 SUV 215/70R16 100T tyres as winter tyres. These happen to be studded, but there are similar tyres to be found from Nokian, eg WR SUV 3, https://www.nokiantyres.com/winter-tyre ... -wr-suv-3/

In Sweden you will be fined if you do not use winter wheels during winter season. So there has to be alternatives to summer tyres for good reasons. I cannot really understand why Mitsu UK are so deadly scared to give any recommendations. It should be possible to find some EU related info which apply for UK too.

BTW, my tyres work just fine. :-)


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 41 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2, 3, 4, 5  Next

All times are UTC - 8 hours [ DST ]


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
© Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV Forum - part of the MyElectricCarForums.com Group