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 Post subject: How to charge PHEV quickly?
PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 10:16 pm 
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Hi,

How could I charge my PHEV quickly at home?
I understand that the charger that comes with the car can work in two modes depending on the current.
Is there a way I can install a power socket that will provide faster charging to the PHEV ?
How?

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 Post subject: Re: How to charge PHEV quickly?
PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 1:59 am 
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The onboard charger limits the current drawn by the car to 16 Amps maximum. The charger that comes with the car can supply 10 Amps maximum. After market wall chargers can supply anything the electricity supply can give, but usually 16 or 32 Amps. But the car can only accept 16 Amps in any case, so that's your limit. This all applies to earlier models, but I don't think anything has changed for recent cars, unless I've missed it! So I don't see any way to charge the car in a domestic environment any quicker than about 3½ hours (at 16 Amps).

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 Post subject: Re: How to charge PHEV quickly?
PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 9:13 am 
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alex101 wrote:
Hi,

How could I charge my PHEV quickly at home?
I understand that the charger that comes with the car can work in two modes depending on the current.
Is there a way I can install a power socket that will provide faster charging to the PHEV ?
How?

Alex

Are you in a 110v or 220v area? If you are in North America it is (relatively) easy to install (or have installed) a 220volt outlet and purchase a 220volt charger. That will cut a charge from empty to around 3 hours.


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 Post subject: Re: How to charge PHEV quickly?
PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 12:05 pm 
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mellobob wrote:
alex101 wrote:
Hi,

How could I charge my PHEV quickly at home?
I understand that the charger that comes with the car can work in two modes depending on the current.
Is there a way I can install a power socket that will provide faster charging to the PHEV ?
How?

Alex

Are you in a 110v or 220v area? If you are in North America it is (relatively) easy to install (or have installed) a 220volt outlet and purchase a 220volt charger. That will cut a charge from empty to around 3 hours.


Not true, in the Nordics we have 230V supply, charging still takes around 7 hours limited by onboard charger.
The cable is only a controller.

For fast charging - CHAdeMO is required (20/50kW DC), and getting that at home sounds really expensive :p

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 Post subject: Re: How to charge PHEV quickly?
PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 12:13 pm 
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alex101 wrote:
Hi,

How could I charge my PHEV quickly at home?
I understand that the charger that comes with the car can work in two modes depending on the current.
Is there a way I can install a power socket that will provide faster charging to the PHEV ?
How?

Alex

Install full 3 phase power and a DC fast charger at home. CHAdeMO will charge from empty to 12 bars in about 18-20 minutes (the car cuts off charging at 12/16 bars in DCFC mode). But it WILL kill your battery if you make a habit of doing it. I've only done it twice on my PHEV in about 6000 miles, both times in Santa Cruz because they have a free CHAdeMO charger.


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 Post subject: Re: How to charge PHEV quickly?
PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 12:49 pm 
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RoyM wrote:
mellobob wrote:
alex101 wrote:
Hi,

How could I charge my PHEV quickly at home?
I understand that the charger that comes with the car can work in two modes depending on the current.
Is there a way I can install a power socket that will provide faster charging to the PHEV ?
How?

Alex

Are you in a 110v or 220v area? If you are in North America it is (relatively) easy to install (or have installed) a 220volt outlet and purchase a 220volt charger. That will cut a charge from empty to around 3 hours.


Not true, in the Nordics we have 230V supply, charging still takes around 7 hours limited by onboard charger.
The cable is only a controller.

For fast charging - CHAdeMO is required (20/50kW DC), and getting that at home sounds really expensive :p


In the UK a 230V 16A supply will allow the car to charge at 16A which takes about 3.5 hours.

Not done using the Mitsubishi plug-in box though...it needs an EV charge point with either 230V 16A or 230V 32A supply connection.

As already said the car's limit is 16A except when using high voltage DC charge stations.

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 Post subject: Re: How to charge PHEV quickly?
PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 1:16 pm 
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the charging cable that comes with the car has 2 modes - 8A and 12A.
My power socket has 20A braker, however when I connect this cable to this power socket (110V) it only works in the 8A mode.
Is there anything I can do to make it work in 12A mode (faster) ?
I think this will speedup the charging a bit.

Also I noticed that after 8 hours charging sometimes it shows 27km distance on full battery but sometimes it shows 37km distance.
Can't figure out why...


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 Post subject: Re: How to charge PHEV quickly?
PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 3:53 pm 
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Most likely the ambient temperature.


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 Post subject: Re: How to charge PHEV quickly?
PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 3:54 pm 
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The distance shown on the "Guessometer" is an estimate only. It is based on how the car was last driven, someone said the last 5 minutes, possibly. Also the mileage will be affected by temperature and whether the heater was in use.

The two modes on the supplied charger are a mystery to me, in the UK we only got a box that gives 10 Amps at our nominal 240 volts supply.

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 Post subject: Re: How to charge PHEV quickly?
PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 11:58 pm 
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STS134 wrote:
alex101 wrote:
Hi,

How could I charge my PHEV quickly at home?
I understand that the charger that comes with the car can work in two modes depending on the current.
Is there a way I can install a power socket that will provide faster charging to the PHEV ?
How?

Alex

Install full 3 phase power and a DC fast charger at home. CHAdeMO will charge from empty to 12 bars in about 18-20 minutes (the car cuts off charging at 12/16 bars in DCFC mode). But it WILL kill your battery if you make a habit of doing it. I've only done it twice on my PHEV in about 6000 miles, both times in Santa Cruz because they have a free CHAdeMO charger.
Hasve you looked at the price of such a charger? At least 10.000 $. Not counting the adaptation of your electric supply system.

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