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 Post subject: Re: New Zealand charging
PostPosted: Sat Dec 05, 2015 1:33 am 
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Quite impossble without ChaDeMo, I fear.
Nor would it be an option to retrofit. One would lose the guaranty and possibly invalidate the official type-approval (depending on NZ law - in Europe one would)

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 Post subject: Re: New Zealand charging
PostPosted: Sat Dec 05, 2015 1:38 am 
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Thanks. Any idea why they would limit it to 16a?


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 Post subject: Re: New Zealand charging
PostPosted: Sat Dec 05, 2015 2:33 am 
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They might be worried about battery life. They do warn against frequent use of fast chargers in the manual for cars where ChaDeMo is fitted. -probably for guaranty wiggle room-
Another consideration might be that 16 A is a common max fuse value for household systems in quite a few countries.
Actually I uprated the circuit of my home 16A charging box to 25A to keep that ring open for other appliances.

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 Post subject: Re: New Zealand charging
PostPosted: Sat Dec 05, 2015 10:58 am 
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Here's the thing, according to my Juicebox Pro 40 my 2016 PHEV is only taking charge at 14.5amps. The manual states 16amps though.

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 Post subject: Re: New Zealand charging
PostPosted: Sat Dec 05, 2015 11:01 am 
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That sounds about right. The charging is not straight through, but controlled by the car software. 16A is a maximum rating, there is even a pause halfway where it takes nothing.

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 Post subject: Re: New Zealand charging
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Seems I cannot post an image.


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 Post subject: Re: New Zealand charging
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 Post subject: Re: New Zealand charging
PostPosted: Sat Dec 05, 2015 11:21 am 
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Something else I've found out is after about 30 mins of charging it drops down to only 1 or 2 amps for a few mins, almost 10 gone so far. So I unplugged it and plugged in again and boom, straight back up to 14.5 amps. So what is the car software doing during the charging phase? I will track exactly what it does for a whole charge and perhaps stick a timer on there to avoid the trickle charge sections. Just can't figure out why they won't let the car charge up faster.


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 Post subject: Re: New Zealand charging
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I feel confident that Mitsu programmed these pauses for a reason. For instance balancing the battery cells and re-calibrating the system. It is unwise to override the programming.
Li-Ion batteries are sensitive to charging procedures. You might lose battery life and capacity that way.

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 Post subject: Re: New Zealand charging
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My PHEV has been recorded, suspending the recharging for a short period, before resuming and fully recharging. About 10 mins max, in 4-5 hours is not troubling me.

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