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Looking forward to learning more specs about my new PHEV. What residential charging unit do you recommend?
(Portland ME)
 
hhw said:
Looking forward to learning more specs about my new PHEV. What residential charging unit do you recommend?
(Portland ME)

Highest current you can get to future-proof. I have a 32Amp charger but my Outlander can only take 16amp max (apart from the DC).

If you have solar panels there are devices can can route the excess to your car instead of sending it back to the grid.

Please let me know if I should translate any of my British English into American :)
 
Better question will be what socket to install? Or hard wired?

Here is a list of popular sockets:

Nema 6-20: easiest one, 3.6KW is sufficient/max out for our Outlander PHEV; (https://www.homedepot.com/p/Webasto-TurboCord-240-Volt-16-Amp-Plug-In-EV-Charger-Charging-Station-23075-020/205430044?cm_mmc=Shopping%7CG%7CVF%7CD27E%7C27-8_CIRCUIT_PROTECT._DEVICES%7CNA%7CPLA%7C71700000033149223%7C58700003867184469%7C92700031085878038&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI54vqqPzl3AIVhCNpCh12XggJEAQYBCABEgIRs_D_BwE&dclid=CPvH8bX85dwCFUp3wQodBOkAVA)


Nema 14-30: same as most of electrical dryer; (https://amazing-e.com/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMImLPa1vzl3AIVCxhpCh1C0AvwEAAYASAAEgKXCPD_BwE


Nema 14-50: most powerfull. You can charge 2 (two) Outlander PHEVs with power to spare.

Once you have the socket figure out, EVSE is much easier. Even if the plug doesn’t fit, there are adapters...

I would recommend UL listed for insurance purposes.

The hardwired EVSEs are overkill, IMHO.

Tai
 
Tai626 said:
Better question will be what socket to install? Or hard wired?

Here is a list of popular sockets:

Nema 6-20: easiest one, 3.6KW is sufficient/max out for our Outlander PHEV; (https://www.homedepot.com/p/Webasto-TurboCord-240-Volt-16-Amp-Plug-In-EV-Charger-Charging-Station-23075-020/205430044?cm_mmc=Shopping%7CG%7CVF%7CD27E%7C27-8_CIRCUIT_PROTECT._DEVICES%7CNA%7CPLA%7C71700000033149223%7C58700003867184469%7C92700031085878038&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI54vqqPzl3AIVhCNpCh12XggJEAQYBCABEgIRs_D_BwE&dclid=CPvH8bX85dwCFUp3wQodBOkAVA)


Nema 14-30: same as most of electrical dryer; (https://amazing-e.com/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMImLPa1vzl3AIVCxhpCh1C0AvwEAAYASAAEgKXCPD_BwE


Nema 14-50: most powerfull. You can charge 2 (two) Outlander PHEVs with power to spare.

Once you have the socket figure out, EVSE is much easier. Even if the plug doesn’t fit, there are adapters...

I would recommend UL listed for insurance purposes.

The hardwired EVSEs are overkill, IMHO.

Tai

I will need to get a new dedicated 20 amp line run as we don't have a washer outlet available. Should I go with a Nema 6-20 and then just get one of the plug-able EVSEs? We will have a Leaf and Outlander to share the charger, but my Leaf only has the 3.6 Kw charger. We have been running level 1 up to now, but I think we will need Level 2 if we have both EV's...

Thanks.

-M
 
Just fyi, NEMA 6-20P EVSE are rare and expensive, at least those listed on UL. So, if it possible, pull a NEMA 14-30R, get the Amazing-E (https://amazing-e.com/) and call it a day!

Tai
 
Tai626 said:
Just fyi, NEMA 6-20P EVSE are rare and expensive, at least those listed on UL. So, if it possible, pull a NEMA 14-30R, get the Amazing-E (https://amazing-e.com/) and call it a day!

Tai

Sounds like a plan. The 14-30 will be outside, does the circuit need to be GFCI? I guess my electrician will figure all that out.

-M
 
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