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 Post subject: Re: Serious competition?
PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2019 11:00 am 
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ThudnBlundr wrote:
nickmc wrote:
Vauxhalls are cheap cars that you will fix often, compare to German brands that are more expensive but you repair less.

Opel (aka Vauxhall) is a German brand!

This is a common myth, which the German brands like to keep alive. Look at the actual reliability of the various brands and you'll see that they're no better than most other mainstream brands


I had a couple of Astra SRIs over the 10 years before I went PHEV. I found them to be practical, nice to drive, economical and largely trouble free. I would happily consider a Vauxhall/Opel in the future.

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 Post subject: Re: Serious competition?
PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2019 1:40 pm 
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michael8554 wrote:

Petrol engines are most economical at one fixed speed, hence the 8speed auto gearbox, which is no better or worse than the Outlander's continuously variable gearbox.

Many so-called 4WD cars are mostly FWD, with 4WD only engaged when the car computer senses the need - like the Outlander does.
But I guess you can select permanent 4WD - like the Outlander

Michael


To my understanding the PHEV just prefers to drive electric as much as possible. (It’s an EV which sometimes just needs some extra electrons by means of the ICE)
All drive to the wheels is electrical, thus no need for CVT. And this is a constant 4 wheel situation.
The parallel drive mode (above 70 km with low battery) means that the ICE is directly coupled to the front axle in a 1 to 1 situation and generating electricity to feed into the battery. Once enough for approximately 2 km the PHEV will switch to EV.

The 4WD button just disperses the energy equally (electric) between front and rear. Just like my old Landrover’s centre diff lock

I hope to have set some things right about this PHEV’s unique drivetrain.

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 Post subject: Re: Serious competition?
PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2019 6:03 pm 
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Basically correct, but the car will divert power mostly to the front wheels when circumstances permit, except when the 4WD-lock button is activated.
You are perfectly correct to emphasize that the Outlander has no CVT, nor any type of variable gear box. This misconception appears to be a common Internet myth.

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 Post subject: Re: Serious competition?
PostPosted: Sat Aug 24, 2019 1:08 am 
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Apologies on the variable drive description, only got the car recently and had heard the ICE revs changing at constant road speed.

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 Post subject: Re: Serious competition?
PostPosted: Sat Aug 24, 2019 10:25 pm 
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Don't worry about it.

There was a fairly spectacular stoush on here about it a while ago.

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