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 Post subject: Re: New 2018 MY arrived!!
PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 11:46 am 
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Phevy wrote:
robdickinson wrote:
Just a note the brakes regen also (actually substantially more than b5).

I'm glad to hear that, but where do you get that knowledge from?
Never read that before anywhere.

8-)
For sure, the brakes do not regen at all. I think he means that 'pushing the brakepedal causes an increase of regenerative braking by the E-motors, before the brake pads are applied." ;-). This is the case in all B settings. Keep in mind: for example B2 + brake pedal results in less regenerative power than B5 + brake pedal. Consequently, you will be applying the friction brakes sooner / more often in a lower B setting.

So, if you want to optimise regen / minimise brake pad wear, it is best to use higher B settings. On the other hand, some have suggested that running around i B5 all the time, may have negative impact on battery health. O wait, that was me.

.... or they must have completely revised the brake / regen strategy of the car, sine 2013.


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 Post subject: Re: New 2018 MY arrived!!
PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 1:14 pm 
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If you watch the dashboard "Energy Monitor" display you see that B5 can push up to 30kw into the battery. But hitting the brakes can push more - I've seen about 38kw. Might go over 50kw when braking based on some screen shots I've seen online. PHEVWatchdog will give stats for peak charge into the battery during a trip and that also shows around 38kw most trips. So depending on how heavy you use the brake - it might actually be easier on the battery to use B4 or B5.

Pushing that much energy into the battery for just seconds - or maybe a minute on a long steep downhill grade - won't hurt batteries. You have to figure the Mitsubishi engineers knew what they were doing. What can reduce life is charging at these high rates for long periods - like CHAdeMO.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 2:06 am 
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N6IO wrote:
If you watch the dashboard "Energy Monitor" display you see that B5 can push up to 30kw into the battery. But hitting the brakes can push more.


Not a good idea to be watching the dashboard when braking very heavily :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: New 2018 MY arrived!!
PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 7:45 am 
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Interesting. While going into B5 would maximize regen, using the brakes and monitoring the PHEV info page on the display would also give insights into how much power is being regained via regen. I find with a light foot & pre-emptive driving style, you can pretty much regen all the way from any speed back to a stop via brake pedal alone without resorting to B5.

However if you like playing with the paddles, to each their own.


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