maddogsetc said:http://www.whatcar.com/car-news/july/1303096
Not exactly extensive coverage, but interesting nonetheless. Shame they don't give any details on the long-run fuel costs, given that he's racked up over 7k miles now :?
maddogsetc said:I agree it's personal to him but it would still be interesting to know what he's achieved. It's a road test for a car mag after all, and it's a car that majors on low running costs so I would have thought most readers would be interested in fuel costs. If we were talking about the F-type (drool!) then fair enough, but we're not.
The total electric cost can be picked up through the charge cost MMCS option as the car doesn't know who's paying for the electricity. So he could tell us what the total charge cost has been (to a fair degree of accuracy). it's up to readers to make their own estimate of how much of that charge cost they would have to bear personally. I would guess most people have a pretty good idea of that.
And I'm not sure how easy it is in practice to calculate an 'mpg when ICE is running' figure that would be meaningful enough to use for predicting future costs (for me at least). My ICE runs most days. But usually only for a few minutes in parallel mode at the end of a journey. So how would I estimate the mpg for that period (or indeed how many of those miles I will do over the longer term) with any level of accuracy?
I guess so but I'm not convinced that I'll get a very representative and consistent mpg over the mile or two that it runs and even if it did I'd still have the problem of estimating with any accuracy how many of those miles I'll be doing.As for your mpg in parallel hybrid mode, just reset your auto mpg reading when the engine starts and the displayed mpg when you finish your journey is surely exactly the number you want?
maddogsetc said:I guess so but I'm not convinced that I'll get a very representative and consistent mpg over the mile or two that it runs and even if it did I'd still have the problem of estimating with any accuracy how many of those miles I'll be doing.As for your mpg in parallel hybrid mode, just reset your auto mpg reading when the engine starts and the displayed mpg when you finish your journey is surely exactly the number you want?
maddogsetc said:And whatever anyone else says, I don't believe that the 'Manual' reset option in the Trip screen either gives that information or more importantly, does what the handbook says it should do. Perhaps that's something which is fixed with the dubious software update...
maddogsetc said:I agree it's personal to him but it would still be interesting to know what he's achieved. It's a road test for a car mag after all, and it's a car that majors on low running costs so I would have thought most readers would be interested in fuel costs. If we were talking about the F-type (drool!) then fair enough, but we're not.
The total electric cost can be picked up through the charge cost MMCS option as the car doesn't know who's paying for the electricity. So he could tell us what the total charge cost has been (to a fair degree of accuracy). it's up to readers to make their own estimate of how much of that charge cost they would have to bear personally. I would guess most people have a pretty good idea of that.
And I'm not sure how easy it is in practice to calculate an 'mpg when ICE is running' figure that would be meaningful enough to use for predicting future costs (for me at least). My ICE runs most days. But usually only for a few minutes in parallel mode at the end of a journey. So how would I estimate the mpg for that period (or indeed how many of those miles I will do over the longer term) with any level of accuracy?
I'm getting WAY more than that, over 1000 miles, and I expect to be able to maintain it for most of my motoring year.I doubt that many of us will do much better than 60 or 70 MPG-equivalent (taking into account the cost of electricity) over a prolonged period.
maddogsetc said:I'm getting WAY more than that, over 1000 miles, and I expect to be able to maintain it for most of my motoring year.I doubt that many of us will do much better than 60 or 70 MPG-equivalent (taking into account the cost of electricity) over a prolonged period.
In terms of cost - it depends on what you are comparing with and how it's being run. I'm running mine through our business and with the low BIK, VED exempt, 100% WDA I can buy and run this car for 3 years for no more than it was going to cost me to keep my 8 year old Disco another 3 years.
Take out the cost advantage and I'd be buying another Land Rover for sure.
maddogsetc said:Yep, I understand what you're saying, although I'm not sure there's many comparable vehicles for £10k though, Dacia Duster aside?
Does anyone really buy a car just to get from A to B? There'd be an awful lot of G-Wiz's around if that were the case :lol:
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