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 Post subject: Re: Winter Tyres?
PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 6:26 am 
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saw these the other day while at the dealer. He tells me the owner has had a lot of problems with the TMPS but it is working properly. He has reiterated what lots have said on here, use OEM rims with all 4 tyres the same and should have no problems.


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 Post subject: Re: Winter Tyres?
PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 11:56 am 
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Location: Inverness, Scotland, UK. 2014 GX4h with clear rear light lenses.
They look a bit hardcore - hope the exhaust clearance can cope with this level of enthusiasm. I've got genuine Mitsubishi OEM 18" alloys and TPMS valves which worked just fine, once 'programmed' by my local main dealer.

It's just a pity that they're currently sitting on my dining room carpet without any tyres fitted (keeps them nice and clean - away from that salty muck on the roads!). Still disputing the quality of the Falken Eurowinter tyres (from mytyres) that I couldn't get balanced. Three of them have now been sent back to Falken (in Turkey) for 'evaluation'. If Falken conclude that in their opinion that there's nothing wrong with them then I get them back and have to return the refund I've just been given by mytyres. mytyres would not refund me for the one tyre that I was able to get balanced, so I currently have one 'good' Falken Eurowinter tyre that is actually no good to me at all. If Falken do admit that the tyres they supplied are duffers then I'm not about to rush out and buy three new ones that's for sure. I'll probably give Pirelli Sottozeros a go, when they get a bit cheaper in the summer. At this time of year winter tyres become either unobtainable or stupidly expensive in the UK.

The moral of this tale - maybe consider the consequences of buying tyres online? Although it's not always easy to get winter tyres from your local tyre supplier, or if you can the brands they are willing to supply can be rather limited - which is why I bought them online in the firstplace.


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 Post subject: Re: Winter Tyres?
PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 2:10 pm 
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That sounds like a nightmare. I’m going to slap on some Quatrac 5’s in a month or so. Was going to use tyreleader however was hoping that oponeo having a U.K. office might be easier if any problems. Anyone used them in U.K.?


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 Post subject: Re: Winter Tyres?
PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 3:31 pm 
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Hi Sasheo,

Hope this helps (I think these are the same tyres you showed):

viewtopic.php?f=11&t=2997&p=35037

1) Be mindful of the noise. You do notice it on tarmac driving.
2) a bit extra fuel consumption
3) Their on-road performance I find it a bit worse than the Toyo (longer stopping distance and a bit of side-slipping on tight roundabouts - fun, but perhaps not what you're looking for)

I keep both sets and switch them between city and cross-country driving...

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 Post subject: Re: Winter Tyres?
PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2018 11:54 am 
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That sounds like a nightmare.


Yes - very much like a nightmare, although so far longer lasting. It can apparently take up to six months for Falken to decide whether their wobbly tyres are wobbly or not. In the mean time we have lots of ice and snow! If my house sale hadn't taken such an incredibly long time I'd already be sliding about in the Scottish Highlands rather than 'sunny' (currently -2oC) Lincolnshire. I just went out to the garage to get some lager (colder than my fridge) and fell over on the ice. And I haven't even drunk any of the lager yet.


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 Post subject: Re: Winter Tyres?
PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 4:44 am 
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Sasheo wrote:
That sounds like a nightmare. I’m going to slap on some Quatrac 5’s in a month or so. Was going to use tyreleader however was hoping that oponeo having a U.K. office might be easier if any problems. Anyone used them in U.K.?


I've had Quatrac 5s fitted since November here in Derbyshire, UK and I have found them first class in the cold and so far on ice and reasonably light snow conditions (currently 3 inches on the ground and something of a blizzard going on atm). Not a single slip of the wheels so far with AWD selected and anti skid turned off.

As mentioned in an earlier post these tyres are low rolling resistance and I definitely get something like 10% better range with them.

Ordered via 'My Tyres', sent from Germany and fitted locally for around £10 per wheel. Took about a week to get to the fitter after the order was placed.

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 Post subject: Re: Winter Tyres?
PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 6:26 am 
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Another happy Quatrac 5 customer. Makes me realise how budget the Toyos were.


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 Post subject: Re: Winter Tyres?
PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2018 10:15 am 
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If Falken do admit that the tyres they supplied are duffers then I'm not about to rush out and buy three new ones that's for sure. I'll probably give Pirelli Sottozeros a go, when they get a bit cheaper in the summer. At this time of year winter tyres become either unobtainable or stupidly expensive in the UK.

The moral of this tale - maybe consider the consequences of buying tyres online? Although it's not always easy to get winter tyres from your local tyre supplier, or if you can the brands they are willing to supply can be rather limited - which is why I bought them online in the firstplace.


Just got confirmation that Falken admit that my Eurowinters were in fact duffers. So I get to keep my refund from Mytyres. Although I still have the one 'good' Eurowinter that Mytyres wouldn't refund me for. So I'll have to try ebay for that one - there's nothing wrong with it, one careful owner... I can only hope somebody else has recently bought a set of four, not done very many miles on them and has then had one wrecked by a puncture, so needs one more (I know this feeling 'cos I recently had it happen to one of my Toyo R37s - fortunately I had a very good part worn R37 with the same amount of tread depth, already on a wheel in my boot! Tyre gloop and an electric pump wouldn't have helped on this occasion). My 'good' Eurowinter has only done 500 miles.

I'm going to try for a set of Pirelli Sottozeros, hopefully from a local tyre supplier so it'll be their problem if it all goes tits up.


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 Post subject: Re: Winter Tyres?
PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2018 10:50 am 
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Seems like the right time to return to the subject of winter tyres - it's only 29oC in Inverness today (fortunately it cools down at night) so we might get some snow soon. I've just had a set of 225/55 R18 Pirelli Winter Sottozeros fitted to my spare set of 18" OEM alloys and they all balanced just fine. Three of them needed 65 grammes and one 100 grammes weight. There were no red dots painted on the Pirellis so I guess I can conclude that it's a good sign that they don't suffer from sufficient radial runout problems to warrant the red dot treatment. They do all have yellow dots though.

I've just tried them out at up to 80mph and no wobbles or vibration at all. And the TPMS valves all still seem to work (in position '2'). Can't yet say how well they work in ice and snow (we might get some tomorrow) but they're very soft 'n' sticky, especially when it's 29oC. The cost was a not inconsiderable £720 including fitting and VAT. I'll probably take them off again tomorrow and put the Toyo's back on.


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 Post subject: Re: Winter Tyres?
PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2018 11:09 pm 
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NightPHEVer wrote:
I'll probably take them off again tomorrow and put the Toyo's back on.


So we are definitely going to get snow then! :lol:


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