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 Post subject: Re: Charging information (international)
PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 7:20 am 
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Hi I am brand new to this forum but have not managed to get any advise elsewhere!! I have a 2014 GX4 which I bought in the UK and have brought it to France where I will spend several months here. I have a French socket in the garage so used an ordinary adapter to plug in my UK charger. However over time I have noticed that although the dashboard says the batteries are fully charged, it only read about 20 miles and as soon as I drive out of the garage it drops down to 13 miles!
Is this the charger, the adapter or the batteries??
Any ideas anyone? I did think I might borrow a French charger and see if that makes a difference.


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 Post subject: Re: Charging information (international)
PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 7:56 am 
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No it's the memory of the computer and it records how its driven and then adjusts the remaining display to allow for how its been driven.

I am sure its not the charger or adapter.

I adapted mine in Cyprus and no problem.

I if drive it hard in EV mode - it will drop like a stone.

Also the heater and air con knock it down.

How many miles has it done?

Did you buy it from new ?

Just asking as the batteries are guaranteed for 8 years in the EU

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 Post subject: Re: Charging information (international)
PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 8:03 am 
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GINA wrote:
Hi I am brand new to this forum but have not managed to get any advise elsewhere!! I have a 2014 GX4 which I bought in the UK and have brought it to France where I will spend several months here. I have a French socket in the garage so used an ordinary adapter to plug in my UK charger. However over time I have noticed that although the dashboard says the batteries are fully charged, it only read about 20 miles and as soon as I drive out of the garage it drops down to 13 miles!
Is this the charger, the adapter or the batteries??
Any ideas anyone? I did think I might borrow a French charger and see if that makes a difference.


Much more likely a combination of cold weather, unrealistic advertising and your driving style, I'm afraid.

The 32 mile headline figure is very much best case - warm weather, no heating or aircon, straight, flat roads, steady cruising speed and a very light right foot. Few here have achieved it with any regularity. The "guessometer" on the dashboard is notoriously unreliable and should be ignored - the only meaningful figure it the distance you actually achieve before the battery goes flat.

Ambient temperature has an enormous impact on EV range - people that get figures approaching 30 miles in the middle of the summer usually find that they are getting something more like 20 miles in the middle of the winter. This is down to a combination of reduced battery performance, increased viscosity of cold air and increased rolling resistance of cold tyres on cold road surfaces.

Driving style also has a major impact on EV range - the headline figure is based on a very restrained driving style which avoids hard acceleration and braking. Range is significantly reduced at high speeds - 30 miles at 30mph can easily become 20 miles at 60mph. The guessometer tries to learn your driving style and may come up with a reduced estimate if you were hacking along the motorway at high speed yesterday.

So, before you go suspecting a fault in the car or charger, run some tests. Get it fully charged, clear the trip counter down to zero and see how far you actually get before the battery goes flat. If you can manage 20 miles at this time of year driving reasonably gently at 30mph, then there is not much wrong with your car. If you have to scrape the frost off the car in the morning, don't be surprised if you only get 15 miles.


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 Post subject: Re: Charging information (international)
PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 8:16 am 
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GINA wrote:
Hi I am brand new to this forum but have not managed to get any advise elsewhere!! I have a 2014 GX4 which I bought in the UK and have brought it to France where I will spend several months here. I have a French socket in the garage so used an ordinary adapter to plug in my UK charger. However over time I have noticed that although the dashboard says the batteries are fully charged, it only read about 20 miles and as soon as I drive out of the garage it drops down to 13 miles!
Is this the charger, the adapter or the batteries??
Any ideas anyone? I did think I might borrow a French charger and see if that makes a difference.

The plug does not make a whit of difference. It is 16A 240 Volts in France, so your 10 A charger is fully functional. The only difference to a French charger is that some robot at the factory fitted a different plug.

Have you moved from a flat area to a hilly area? that will affect the range considerably, especially if you drive uphill in a cheerful French style.

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 Post subject: Re: Charging information (international)
PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 9:49 am 
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jaapv wrote:
Have you moved from a flat area to a hilly area? that will affect the range considerably, especially if you drive uphill in a cheerful French style.


What does it mean ? :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Charging information (international)
PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 4:58 pm 
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Ooooo let me guess...

(Bear in mind I've never been to France, but have been entertained by others who have...)

Is it:

1) Right hand holding down the horn;
2) Right foot jammed flat to the floor and never lifted;
3) Left foot jamming on the brakes at random intervals;
4) Head out of the window swearing and cursing; and,
5) Left hand (and arm) also out the window making obscene gestures?

:)

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 Post subject: Re: Charging information (international)
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Grigou wrote:
jaapv wrote:
Have you moved from a flat area to a hilly area? that will affect the range considerably, especially if you drive uphill in a cheerful French style.


What does it mean ? :lol:

Saviour-conduire... :mrgreen:

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 Post subject: Re: Charging information (international)
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AndyInOz wrote:
Ooooo let me guess...

(Bear in mind I've never been to France, but have been entertained by others who have...)

Is it:

1) Right hand holding down the horn;
2) Right foot jammed flat to the floor and never lifted;
3) Left foot jamming on the brakes at random intervals;
4) Head out of the window swearing and cursing; and,
5) Left hand (and arm) also out the window making obscene gestures?

:)
You must be a fan of old Louis de Funes movies. :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Charging information (international)
PostPosted: Sat Jul 01, 2017 4:35 am 
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jaapv wrote:
AndyInOz wrote:
Ooooo let me guess...

(Bear in mind I've never been to France, but have been entertained by others who have...)

Is it:

1) Right hand holding down the horn;
2) Right foot jammed flat to the floor and never lifted;
3) Left foot jamming on the brakes at random intervals;
4) Head out of the window swearing and cursing; and,
5) Left hand (and arm) also out the window making obscene gestures?

:)
You must be a fan of old Louis de Funes movies. :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Charging information (international)
PostPosted: Sat Jul 01, 2017 4:40 am 
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I will drive my PHEV in England for a couple of weeks, should I ask some questions about charging in this "international" topic ? :mrgreen:


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