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 Post subject: MY 2017 owners review
PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2017 11:20 pm 
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Hey guys, I started a review/article series about my MY2017 model
https://medium.com/mitsubishi-outlander-phev-2017

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 Post subject: Re: MY 2017 owners review
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nice post. I think the only colour you can pick for an outlander is grey to hide any dust. Its a nightmare with black! Doesn't sound like that the "EV Mode" isn't really any improvement against a 2016 model as the petrol engine kicks in when cold or require header. Makes me think what benefit does EV mode actually does. Look forward reading up about blind spot warnings and auto full beam toggle on/off if you got those!


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 Post subject: Re: MY 2017 owners review
PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2017 3:04 am 
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Why on earth did you let yourself get talked into a 32 A system? The charger you are using draws 10A max. and even a dedicated wall charger is perfectly happy in a 16A circuit, as long as you don't run any other appliances off it.

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 Post subject: Re: MY 2017 owners review
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tweedie wrote:
nice post. I think the only colour you can pick for an outlander is grey to hide any dust. Its a nightmare with black! Doesn't sound like that the "EV Mode" isn't really any improvement against a 2016 model as the petrol engine kicks in when cold or require header. Makes me think what benefit does EV mode actually does. Look forward reading up about blind spot warnings and auto full beam toggle on/off if you got those!


Thanks, yeah the EV mode is a bit of a disappointment, but it does have an effect. If I don't turn it on, the ICE kicks in more.
I have blind spot warning, auto beam, 360 degrees camera and parking sensors, adaptive cruise control so will review these next week.

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 Post subject: Re: MY 2017 owners review
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jaapv wrote:
Why on earth did you let yourself get talked into a 32 A system? The charger you are using draws 10A max. and even a dedicated wall charger is perfectly happy in a 16A circuit, as long as you don't run any other appliances off it.


One phase 16A was for the entire house (electric oven, washing machine, dish washer etc). E.g. a washing machine's startup amperage is around 8A. 16A is barely enough for a modern household even without a car :)

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 Post subject: Re: MY 2017 owners review
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Ah, I see, that is indeed a bit stingy for a complete household. ;)

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 Post subject: Re: MY 2017 owners review
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16A for an entire house! The power to my house passes through a sealed master 100amp fuse being as the cooker circuit is 40amps and there are two socket ring mains and two lighting rings as well. In addition we also have a 100amp fuse protecting the heating! All of which is perfectly normal here.

Ah well different rules and regulations everywhere despite 40 years in EU 'integration' :D

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Steel188 wrote:
16A for an entire house! The power to my house passes through a sealed master 100amp fuse being as the cooker circuit is 40amps and there are two socket ring mains and two lighting rings as well. In addition we also have a 100amp fuse protecting the heating! All of which is perfectly normal here.

Ah well different rules and regulations everywhere despite 40 years in EU 'integration' :D

(Let's not get into a political debate)


:)
Here in Hungary max 3x32A what you can get without extra cost. If you want higher, you need to pay a network development fee to the provider.

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 Post subject: Re: MY 2017 owners review
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jaapv wrote:
Why on earth did you let yourself get talked into a 32 A system? The charger you are using draws 10A max. and even a dedicated wall charger is perfectly happy in a 16A circuit, as long as you don't run any other appliances off it.


For the PHEV yes, but some EVs can charge quicker with 3x16 or 32A so if your installing a new outlet/wallbox why stick to the old? To me thats just stupid because once you go electrical you will never go back.
If I manage to get use to and tolerat the flaws with my 2017 PHEV for the next three years I probably go all electrical next (would love an EV Volvo or otherwise a Tesla ;)) and then its good to be prepared.


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 Post subject: Re: MY 2017 owners review
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ktd wrote:
jaapv wrote:
Why on earth did you let yourself get talked into a 32 A system? The charger you are using draws 10A max. and even a dedicated wall charger is perfectly happy in a 16A circuit, as long as you don't run any other appliances off it.


For the PHEV yes, but some EVs can charge quicker with 3x16 or 32A so if your installing a new outlet/wallbox why stick to the old? To me thats just stupid because once you go electrical you will never go back.
If I manage to get use to and tolerat the flaws with my 2017 PHEV for the next three years I probably go all electrical next (would love an EV Volvo or otherwise a Tesla ;)) and then its good to be prepared.


I agree, my next car will be probably a full electric secondary car - a Zoe for example. But I plan to move from here before that.

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