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 Post subject: Any YouTube cross-axle footage?
PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2018 3:35 pm 
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I’ve read many times that the PHEV cannot handle cross-axle situations due to the open diffs. Has anyone come across any YouTube or similar footage demonstrating this? I’ve tried a few searches but nothing relevant comes up.


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 Post subject: Re: Any YouTube cross-axle footage?
PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2018 4:20 pm 
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Sailordoc wrote:
I’ve read many times that the PHEV cannot handle cross-axle situations due to the open diffs. Has anyone come across any YouTube or similar footage demonstrating this? I’ve tried a few searches but nothing relevant comes up.

Hi Sailordoc,

I put this on here last year I think showing cross-axle slip and showing how I get out of it from what I was taught from my dad ie "TURN THE BLOODY STEERING WHEEL SON" he would say :lol:

Here my oldest son is practising while my youngest son films. So passing the knowledge on. :D

Click on the image.

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The motor noise is from a diesel front end loader in the background used to make the 2 mounds of dirt.

Was it you that PMed me about the Geolandars tyres?

Regards Trex.


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 Post subject: Re: Any YouTube cross-axle footage?
PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2018 7:50 pm 
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Trex wrote:
I put this on here last year I think showing cross-axle slip and showing how I get out of it from what I was taught from my dad ie "TURN THE BLOODY STEERING WHEEL SON" he would say :lol:

Thanks for the video.
As the wheel is not completely floating, and you reference steering, does this mean that the breaks do not engage on the spinning wheel :?:

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 Post subject: Re: Any YouTube cross-axle footage?
PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:36 am 
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It's a first generation one, those had no cross-axle braking. In this case, half-pulling the handbrake might have been a solution.

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 Post subject: Re: Any YouTube cross-axle footage?
PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:27 am 
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I think this is what you are looking for.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AI9lMky5lUU


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 Post subject: Re: Any YouTube cross-axle footage?
PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2018 2:40 pm 
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TonyL wrote:
I think this is what you are looking for.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AI9lMky5lUU


That's not a PHEV.

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 Post subject: Re: Any YouTube cross-axle footage?
PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 8:36 pm 
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generaltso wrote:
TonyL wrote:
I think this is what you are looking for.
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That's not a PHEV.

Exactly.
So is the PHEV S-AWC the same or not?
Did someone do this test with a PHEV?
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 Post subject: Re: Any YouTube cross-axle footage?
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Phevy wrote:
generaltso wrote:
That's not a PHEV.

Exactly.
So is the PHEV S-AWC the same or not?
Did someone do this test with a PHEV?
:?:


The S-AWC system in the PHEV is not the same. I haven’t seen any videos of anyone doing that same test with a PHEV. This is probably the closest thing:

https://youtu.be/H_imGaSZ1B8

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 Post subject: Re: Any YouTube cross-axle footage?
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generaltso wrote:
Phevy wrote:
Exactly.
So is the PHEV S-AWC the same or not?
Did someone do this test with a PHEV?
:?:


The S-AWC system in the PHEV is not the same. I haven’t seen any videos of anyone doing that same test with a PHEV. This is probably the closest thing:...

I've seen this video, but the driver is not letting the wheel spin fast enough and long enough for the S-AWC to kick in :!:
At least, if it works the same as the non-PHEV S-AWC shows. S-AWC seems to need enough of a difference in revolutions between left and right before engaging.
With concern of tire wear, people are reluctant to let the spinning endure. That's why an actual cross-axle situation with a free floating wheel, be a more desirable test to prove the system functioning.
I'm not planning to pull from a boat ramp. but I have had hairy situations on sloping camp sites with tree roots and sand, that made me wish I had 4WD at the time, when my front wheels started to slip.
Therefore I'm interested in the off-road capabilities of the PHEV.
It would also rebuke that infamous video of the boat ramp fail... :mrgreen:

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