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 Post subject: Any way to check battery on a test drive?
PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2018 2:46 am 
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Noob here. I have searched through several pages of posts for an answer, but apologies if it's been asked before

We're looking to buy a PHEV, but it's likely to be a 2015 model with 30-40k miles. I've looked at a couple on regular forecourts and the batteries are almost always near flat, so it's impossible to get an idea of range. Even if they have a charging point, they're seldom at capacity. Is there any way to check the traction battery SOH while looking round the car or on a test drive. I gather that there are apps linking to an ODB2 port - I have something similar for my Zoe - but I'm not sure how keen the salesman would be for me to plug it in! Is there another way to get a reading without going to a main dealer?

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 Post subject: Re: Any way to check battery on a test drive?
PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2018 2:52 am 
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No, there is not, apart from a full analysis by the OBD2 port or - even better -, a battery condition check by a dealer. Even if the car is fully charged, the display on the instrument panel is totally unreliable. With half an hour's drive I can get mine to display anything between 20 and 60 km.

I would not buy a used PHEV without a recent battery condition report from a Mitsubishi dealer. If it is refused, walk away.

Do make sure the car has been dealer-maintained. If it has been serviced by a non-authorized dealer, or, worse, DIY, the requisite updates and factory checks will not have been carried out.

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Thanks Jaapv. I guessed as much, but was hoping for some way of finding out. A problem I'm finding is that there aren't enough non-GX3h models around, so dealers don't have to worry too much about me walking away.

Maybe I should look at the apps and take along my WiFi ODB2 connection...

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Still, you are a customer willing to drop a not inconsiderable amount of money. I don't think it is too much to ask to make a sale conditional on a battery check.

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 Post subject: Re: Any way to check battery on a test drive?
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ThudnBlundr wrote:
I gather that there are apps linking to an ODB2 port - I have something similar for my Zoe - but I'm not sure how keen the salesman would be for me to plug it in! Is there another way to get a reading without going to a main dealer?


If the seller will neither obtain a Mitsubishi battery condition report nor let you plug in an OBD dongle to do your own check, I would recommend you walk away.

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 Post subject: Re: Any way to check battery on a test drive?
PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2018 12:56 pm 
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You cant really harm the car with an obd reader, they are pretty common too, buy a compatible one ( for the dog or evbatmon) and make it a condition you check out the battery.


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 Post subject: Re: Any way to check battery on a test drive?
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Thanks everyone for the replies. I guess I should be more assertive, but I'm still learning what I'm looking for on a secondhand PHEV. Learnt a few more things reading on here today :oops:

I'm know I'm being a bit lazy as it's late, but is there a recommended smartphone app? I have a WiFi dongle and use my iPhone and a free app to connect to the Zoe.

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 Post subject: Re: Any way to check battery on a test drive?
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Theres 2 apps

The 'dog, needs side loading from here
http://phevwatchdog.net/

And evbatmon
https://play.google.com/store/apps/deta ... tMon&hl=en

In NZ we are just given the keys to drive off (no dealer) so I'd just use the obd reader on my test drive


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 Post subject: Re: Any way to check battery on a test drive?
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Wish they did that here. When I've swapped drivers (i don't know why I couldn't drive initially :roll:) I've had the salesman stop the engine, take the keys and walk round the car with them to get into the passenger seat before handing them back to me. I don't think I looked that dodgy, and I was driving a people carrier FFS. Not much use nowadays with keyless ignition.

Thanks for the links - I had seen both in my browsing, but there's so much info on here! Sadly (for me) one's Android (we're iOS people here) and the other is an eye-watering £30 on the app store but only £18 on Google Play :shock: Seems a lot, but could save loads, I suppose.

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