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 Post subject: alloy refurb
PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 4:17 am 
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i've not seen many phevs with repainted alloys. is there a specific reason for this or is it ok to get the alloys sprayed a different colour?


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 Post subject: Re: alloy refurb
PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2018 3:15 pm 
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They need Diamond cutting.


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 Post subject: Re: alloy refurb
PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2018 3:02 am 
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I bought a set of alloys off ebay recently because I'm fed up of swapping tyres for summer/winter and worried about tyre/alloy damage - 2 are marked worse than I was led to believe :(

I've got quotes for diamond cutting around £100 per wheel and apparently depending on depth of damage they can only be refurbished 1 or 2 times :shock:

I have been told they have to be stripped and repainted as part of the refurb so colour can be changed if required :?

I'm considering having them powder coated instead as they are for winter - anyone been down this route :?:

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 Post subject: Re: alloy refurb
PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2018 10:03 pm 
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Are they about to make diamond cutting before or after paint job?
If before its a pain to get mask tape cleared after coating as it melts in heating. If after they need to be lacquered to protect cutted surfaces.

If theyre fir winter use i’d just powder coat all over without cutting.

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 Post subject: Re: alloy refurb
PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2018 1:20 am 
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I'm not sure but for winter I agree powder coat is probably best

Nobody appears to give warranty with diamond cutting as metal is exposed to elements

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 Post subject: Re: alloy refurb
PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 2:38 pm 
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I bought a set from ebay and had them powder coated for winter use - cost around £60 each (for the coating). Paid £530 for the wheels. They were not blasted with any sort of medium, dipped in some sort of acid to remove the original factory finish and then powder coated. Dead smooth and shiny - they do look like new now. They were in very good looking condition when I got them - almost like new. Had to fit new TPMS valves though. Had a bit of trouble balancing them so far though (although this seems mostly due to the Falken Eurowinter tyres which I've sent back), not as easy as the 'summer' set that came with the car. Summer ones need around 45grammes to balance (with Toyos) these up to 100grammes. Here's a picture of them.

Ooh er, my picture seems to have come out really large? It's a 'save for the web' jpeg on an iMac which is 125k. Don't know why it's physically so large though. Is there any specification I should be saving pics too?


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 Post subject: Re: alloy refurb
PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2018 10:02 am 
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Decided to go for Anthracite powder coating on my eBay winter set rather than get them diamond turned - I think they look good :mrgreen:

Getting tyres fitted Wed - reading posts on here I will also need to get TPMS programmed before fitting in winter :geek:

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Now have a spare set of Toyo Tyres with 5.5-6.5 mm - can I advertise them on this forum and if so where please :?


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 Post subject: Re: alloy refurb
PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2018 10:20 am 
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Muddywheels wrote:
I'm not sure but for winter I agree powder coat is probably best

Nobody appears to give warranty with diamond cutting as metal is exposed to elements

It depends The alloys my winter tyres are factory wheels and still like new after four winters.

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 Post subject: Re: alloy refurb
PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2018 10:33 am 
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I agree jaapv - I took the opportunity to remove my factory fitted diamond turned alloys and clean them properly off the vehicle after 2 winters and a summer use - the grime came off easily with nothing more than a snow foam pre soak/jet wash then shampoo - I was advised not to use alloy wheel cleaner due to acid damage risk but it wasn't necessary anyway :mrgreen:

I used to clean the LR alloys off the vehicle as I had 2 sets and they needed alloy wheel cleaner to shift the dirt :roll:

Because I have been using the same alloys with 2 sets of tyres there were a lot of old sticky pads from balancing that needed to be removed which took a bit of effort but the end result was well worth it 8-)

I wasn't as confident an indi refurb would be as durable hence the powder coating on the second set :?

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 Post subject: Re: alloy refurb
PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2018 10:55 am 
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Muddywheels wrote:
Decided to go for Anthracite powder coating on my eBay winter set rather than get them diamond turned - I think they look good :mrgreen:

Getting tyres fitted Wed - reading posts on here I will also need to get TPMS programmed before fitting in winter :geek:


They look good in that colour. I'd be interested to hear how you get on with the balancing. Had a lot of trouble with Falken Eurowinters (documented elsewhere on this forum) but Falken admitted that the tyres were too wobbly to balance and gave me a refund.

It does seem to help, if there's a red dot on the sidewall to align it with the valve position. Based on the assumption that the red dot indicates the high point for both radial runout and radial force variation (apparently). Not all tyre fitters seem to take much notice of this. Recently had a part worn Toyo R37 fitted and persuaded the fitter to put the red dot next to the valve, it only needed 45 grammes to balance. That's quite a lot less than some factory fitted Toyos on PHEVs I've seen (anything up to 100 grammes - including the other three on mine). Noticed one in the showroom the other day with over 100 grammes - red dot wasn't aligned with the valve though.


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