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 Post subject: Winter Tires and rims for 2018 Outlander PHEV SE
PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 10:20 am 
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new to the forum here, and I combed through a bit, and tried searching but don't know if this question's been answered.

I've bought a 2018 Outlander PHEV, with the SE trim level.

As I'm in eastern Ontario I'll be in need of some winter tires.

On previous cars with nice shiny alloys, I've always used minus-sized steel winter rims in favor of a higher tire sidewall and narrower tread, not great in the curves of course, but when the snow flies this has given great results for traction.

The dealer seems to be under the impression that I need 18" rims on this model (it comes with 18" alloys for the 3-season tires)

anyone have any experience with this?

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 Post subject: Re: Winter Tires and rims for 2018 Outlander PHEV SE
PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 2:12 pm 
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Never trust a car dealer.

I am running 16 inch rims on my winter tires. Same total diameter though. Car comes standard with 225/55-18 and I run 215/75-16 in winter. Works perfectly.


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 Post subject: Re: Winter Tires and rims for 2018 Outlander PHEV SE
PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2018 1:52 am 
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There is even a model running on 16" rims from the factory over here. The only thing that counts technically is the total diameter of the wheel. And legal requirements of course.

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 Post subject: Re: Winter Tires and rims for 2018 Outlander PHEV SE
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German requirements ask for "thin chain versions only".

It might be good to check if you will have sufficient space in case that you want to go for standard chains.


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 Post subject: Re: Winter Tires and rims for 2018 Outlander PHEV SE
PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 6:08 pm 
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Steepndeep wrote:
Never trust a car dealer.

I am running 16 inch rims on my winter tires. Same total diameter though. Car comes standard with 225/55-18 and I run 215/75-16 in winter. Works perfectly.


That’s cool I’m just trying to figure out if the brakes are different in the PHEV model vs the v6 model.

For clarity’s sake are you in the North American market?


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 Post subject: Re: Winter Tires and rims for 2018 Outlander PHEV SE
PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 6:10 pm 
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Harald wrote:
German requirements ask for "thin chain versions only".

It might be good to check if you will have sufficient space in case that you want to go for standard chains.


Wow chains... they’re not road legal here anyway, can’t even use studded tires In Ontario. But our winters are reasonably tame in Ottawa.


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 Post subject: Re: Winter Tires and rims for 2018 Outlander PHEV SE
PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2018 8:26 am 
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Location: Inverness, Scotland, UK. 2014 GX4h with clear rear light lenses.
In the UK 18inch OEM alloy rims (18 X 7.00J with 225/55 R18 tyres) are not homologated by Mitsubishi for winter tyre fitment. If Mitsubishi were asked to supply a 'set of winter wheels and tyres' they would supply 16inch steel wheels with 215/75 R16 tyres. That doesn't stop us enterprising, pre-brexit brits fitting 18inch OEM alloy rims with 225/55 R18 winter tyres though. Chains are not that commonly used (or needed) in the UK, and in fact most UK driver's wouldn't know what a winter tyre is for. Even though we spent a good part of last winter slipping and sliding about and crashing into each other. Winter tyres are not a legal requirement in the UK. I have a set of steel wheels with winter tyres on my Smart car but they don't look as nice as the 'summer' alloys and the steel wheels eventually go rusty.

Whether or not fitting 18inch OEM alloy rims with 225/55 R18 winter tyres would upset leasing companies (warranty?) or insurance companies is possibly a grey area. Although I always tell my insurance company that I have winter tyres fitted (in the winter) just in case. You'd have thought they'd be grateful but they don't seem to care really. The only risk we take is that the person tailgating us doesn't have winter tyres fitted so will almost certainly drive into the back of us. Apart from the extraordinary amount of extra grip in snow the best thing I've noticed about winter tyres on a PHEV is that they prevent understeer into corners when driving on ice, and sliding when driving downhill on ice. Even 4 wheel drive doesn't stop these two things happening.
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That’s cool I’m just trying to figure out if the brakes are different in the PHEV model vs the v6 model.
when you say 'V6 model' I guess you mean a V6 petrol? We dont have a V6 petrol version in the UK, only a lumpy ol' diesel version - which some people buy, I think mainly because it has 7 seats and is probably more reliable than a Land Rover.


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 Post subject: Re: Winter Tires and rims for 2018 Outlander PHEV SE
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Is the Bolt Pattern (North America) 5 x 114.3 : (5 x 4.5) ? The manual is nearly useless for specs.

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 Post subject: Re: Winter Tires and rims for 2018 Outlander PHEV SE
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Asked our dealer about winter tires here in Ontario when we picked up our 2018 PHEV on Friday. He said the dealership would set us up with winter tires on 16" rims and TPMS sensors.

Will probably get them in another couple of months as I'm not sure about the fitted Toyo's in the winter.

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 Post subject: Re: Winter Tires and rims for 2018 Outlander PHEV SE
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Be cautious when choosing a 16"wheel on an MY19 Outlander. (I have just bought one). On my old 2016 16" wheels with 215/70/R16 tyres were supplied by a German Mitsubishi dealer.

I can not use these on my new MY19 petrol. The new Outlander handbook specifically states that under no circumstances should 16" wheels, even original Mitsubishi originals, should be fitted if the vehicle is equipped with an electronic brake, which mine is.

I took my 16" wheels to my supplying Mitsubishi dealer for a "test fit": this confirmed that the electronic brake was dangerously close to the 16" rim.

I also note that the MY19 brochure does not specify a 16" wheel in the technical specification, although 16" wheels are listed in the handbook: presumably for non-electronic brake versions.
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Also be aware that, on UK websites at least, a wheel search by model will generate 18 x 8.00J wheels for an Outlander. The Mitsubishi spec. is for 18 x 7.00J.

My local Mitsubishi supplier would not confirm theses as acceptable, there being no known tests with this alternative size.
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Overall Mitsubishi UK are lacking in any meaningful information regarding fitting winter tyres.

For info: the Outlander wheels in UK are 18 x 7.00J 5x114.3 Offset 38 Centre bore 67.1.
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