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 Post subject: Re: How to charge PHEV quickly?
PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 11:54 am 
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Can you please send a picture of yours?

My German one has no option to change and is only using 8A max.
My line is only for the PHEV with a 16A fuse on a 16A CEE socket/cable.

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 Post subject: Re: How to charge PHEV quickly?
PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2018 1:44 am 
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alex101 wrote:
I am thinking to get a Level 2 charger which is 30A to get a quicker charge at home.
Current cost is CAD 800 and $600 to install.

I'm not sure what voltage that will be at. The maximum the PHEV can take is 16A at 220V or 30A at 110V

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 Post subject: Re: How to charge PHEV quickly?
PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2018 3:43 am 
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alex101 wrote:
Thank you everyone for answering my question.
Here is what I've found:
My charging cable has 2 modes: 6A and 12A.
I was trying to change the mode when car was plugged and it did not work.
If I plug the cable and then press the Power button, it allows to change mode from 6A to 12A.
Problem solved.

I am thinking to get a Level 2 charger which is 30A to get a quicker charge at home.
Current cost is CAD 800 and $600 to install.
Wouldn't it be simpler to change your charging routine? If you charge your car whilst you have your night's sleep or during working hours it does not really matter how long it takes.

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 Post subject: Re: How to charge PHEV quickly?
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alex101 wrote:
Thank you everyone for answering my question.
Here is what I've found:
My charging cable has 2 modes: 6A and 12A.
I was trying to change the mode when car was plugged and it did not work.
If I plug the cable and then press the Power button, it allows to change mode from 6A to 12A.
Problem solved.

I am thinking to get a Level 2 charger which is 30A to get a quicker charge at home.
Current cost is CAD 800 and $600 to install.

I'm using an Open Source EVSE that I assembled. The completed units ready to plug-in will save you about CAD100. If electrical assembly is fun for you, a complete kit will cost about CAD600. I had a 240V outlet installed to connect to - it cost USD50.
https://store.openevse.com/collections/all/standard-series

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 Post subject: Re: How to charge PHEV quickly?
PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 4:00 pm 
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cornclose wrote:
anko wrote:
I know the charging process ramps up slowly. That can be controlled by the control box but also by the OnBoardCharger. I am quit convinced the control box simply advertises 10 amps full stop. Maybe until to big of a voltage drop occurs and then it advertises 0.

Not from what I've witnessed. It will go from zero charge (0A) to about 2A (460W) instantly, stay at 2A for about 10-15 seconds, and then go straight to ~9A and stay there until charging is almost complete, after which it gradually reduces the charge rate from ~9A to 0A over a period of about 30 minutes.
How is that NOT ramping up slowly?


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 Post subject: Re: How to charge PHEV quickly?
PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2018 1:41 am 
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I'm owning a go-eCharger 22kw since two days.

Very cool system, with a very good support.
Even on my 16A outlet and the Outi only using one Phase, I can charge from 0 to 100% in only 4h.

Outi is consuming ~14A and ~3.1kW while charging.

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 Post subject: Re: How to charge PHEV quickly?
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alex101 wrote:
Hi,

How could I charge my PHEV quickly at home?

Alex


Here is quick update.
I have installed 240V 32A Level 2 charger at home.
Now it takes around 2.5 hours to charge PHEV.
I confirm that car only draws 16A.
So it does not matter if your charger is 16A or 32A, the charging time will be the same.

The only way to charge faster is to use Level 3 DC charger which is very expensive for home use.
I wish the car could be modified to be able to use 32A.
In this case I could charge it in 1.5 hours.
But I guess that would mean to replace onboard charger to something more powerful.


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 Post subject: Re: How to charge PHEV quickly?
PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 10:17 pm 
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alex101 wrote:
Now it takes around 2.5 hours to charge PHEV.

If you can charge your car from empty to full in 2.5 hours that is not a good sign. You should check battery heath.


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 Post subject: Re: How to charge PHEV quickly?
PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 11:13 pm 
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Rhe onboard charger can only go up to 3.7kWh, it takes arround 5-6 hours from empty to full.
If you need only 2 hours, your battery is extremly down.

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 Post subject: Re: How to charge PHEV quickly?
PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 11:56 pm 
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alex101 wrote:
alex101 wrote:
Hi,

How could I charge my PHEV quickly at home?

Alex


Here is quick update.
I have installed 240V 32A Level 2 charger at home.
Now it takes around 2.5 hours to charge PHEV.
I confirm that car only draws 16A.
So it does not matter if your charger is 16A or 32A, the charging time will be the same.

The only way to charge faster is to use Level 3 DC charger which is very expensive for home use.
I wish the car could be modified to be able to use 32A.
In this case I could charge it in 1.5 hours.
But I guess that would mean to replace onboard charger to something more powerful.
It would not be very good for the battery. The faster you charge the more it deteriorates.

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