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    By -5C the PHEV is not a PHEV any more...

    Li battery would be irreversibly damaged if stay in very cold conditions (-40C). This happens if the electrolyte freezes. Does not matter how long it exposed to cold condition. When electrolyte freezes - battery killed. I don't know, does Mitsu PHEV have a emergnecy heating in this situation...
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    By -5C the PHEV is not a PHEV any more...

    It shoud be possible to install "Pure EV" button like in Prius to Prius-PHEV conversion kits :) Just spoof temperature sensors to make the car think that its a summer. Disclaimer: this would kill your battery, your ICE and probably you. Don't do this at home :-) Tesla have a "save the...
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    By -5C the PHEV is not a PHEV any more...

    Sure, that "ECO+" is possible by just software changes (get pure-EV, but cold inside and verrrry slow and unresponsitive during winter), and even kick-down with ICE start is also possible.( OK, pure-EV, but ICE would last not 100.000-200.000 km, but probably just 50.000 km) But Mitsu desided not...
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    By -5C the PHEV is not a PHEV any more...

    Hi. Here is a technical answer why Li-based PHEV would not perfom well at low temperatures: http://ecec.mne.psu.edu/Pubs/047304JES%202013.pdf 2 points: Li battery could not get\produce power at temperatures below -5C ( may be -10C) due rising of internal resistance Li battery would be...
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    reduced charging current

    Not a problem to get 5A because its possible to convert AC 240V to AC 120V without losses. Just a simple transformer can do this. 10A at 120V will be 5A at 240V 6A at 120V will be 3A at 240V
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    reduced charging current

    There is no need to hack or intercept communication. Just build (buy) the wall station which advertise, that maximum allowed current is 6A. Onborad chager will do the rest. It could be 120V * 6A = 0.7 kWt limit, or 240 V *6A = 1.4 kW limit. DC socket is not a 120V. It something around...
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    reduced charging current

    Hi. J1772 charger standard tell us, that mininum is 6A in analog selection mode. https://code.google.com/p/open-evse/wiki/J1772Basics I do not found any information about digital mode of communication.... So, if you use 120V-10А-50hz - this is it - 1.2 kW. But...its more that 12 hours to...
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    Need some help please .

    This not correct. Charging unit is just a switch and ground tester for safety. It does not "convert" anything. Its simple enough to build one on Arduio DIY kit :-) All power electronics is on-board. Topic starter can buy any charger localy - it will work. Also, he can choose a charging station...
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    WiFi range Extender

    Looks like a good "startup" project or for university graduation project :-) Make a device with client wifi and 3G modem. Install it in car and pair with it. Make cloud service to emulate client phone on the server side. Remove mitsu app and use any browser with any internet access for...
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    What happens if the EV is non-functional

    NO, it can't. There is no CVT. Just one gear (something like 5th gear in traditional gearbox ) and simple clutch with two positions: On and Off. This clutch could not be on until speed is below 70 kph, because this will drop engine speed below working range and stop it. Also, there is no 12V...
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    What is the total power of the PHEV?

    This is wrong, its not the battery power, but total power. You can get 100 kw from two sources: 60 from battery and 40 from grenerator for example. The only way to check the battery power is 0-100 kph run at "green" zone on eco-monitor, trying to avoid to accelerate as fast as possible, but...
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    Recuperative braking behavior

    I am upset, if you are right. It means, that there is no "Regen cooperation" like in Prius - Recharge on breaking always, use friction brake only to compensate lack of regenerative braking ( battery full or maximum battery current reached ) Is it realy true ?
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    Recuperative braking behavior

    Hi all. Owners, please describe how does it work. 1. Both pedal in neutral position. "D"-mode. Does it brake ? 2. Both pedal in neutral position. "Bx"-mode. How does it brake ? 3. Slight Braking. "D"-mode. Does it brake by recharging or simply by friction brakes ? Is it possible to feel...
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    Acceleration and top speed tested an verified.

    Hi. Thanks for this info !! Do you get it on charged battery and heated-up engine ? Its it possible to remeasure on depleted battery ? Could you measure one more parameter ? 0-100km\h at most possible acceleration on battery without ICE help is also very interesting. Thanks !
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    What is the total power of the PHEV?

    A lot of videos with full throttle acceleartion of PHEV: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTy1OHLGQb4 Runs very nice until have charge, and much worse while discharged. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GiekMbp86M But nothing about EV-only mode.... :-(
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    What is the total power of the PHEV?

    Hello. No, 60 kW for each motor was easy to find in specs...but it tell nothing. Simple example: Prius GEN3 have 60 kW motor, but the battery have only 25 kW (in best days) available. So, if I want to stay in EV mode - I have only 25 kW. Requst more and ICE start and add 40 kW from generator...
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    What is the total power of the PHEV?

    Hello. Total power of 3 engines is meanless... The more interesting parameter is an total "available" power = Battery power + ICE power on generator. ICE power is known = 70kw, but I never see battery specs :( 12 kWh is a capacity, not a power. Does anyone found battery parameters for...
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