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once the battery (not the air temperature) is cold enough the system will lock out to "protect the battery." Plugging in makes no difference once the battery is either fully charged or too cold to take a charge (-25 according to a conversation with Mitsu customer"service"). The recent software...

0.1 - it does not have a "battery heater for operation in cold weather" ('23/24 models) as stated in the 2023 specs - it was deleted after 2022 but is on the spec sheet for 2023

More than that, -25C is commonplace in locations where Mitsu dealears are located and sell these vehicles.

The "Reminder" to owners simply says that the update *may* slow the cooling - there's nothing to suggest that they've done anything except a little bit of CYA so they can blow smoke about having taken steps to address the problem.

Maybe you just dodged a bullet Jim - -12F ~ -24C...the magic number is -25C and depending on the battery temperature when you parked the vehicle and how long is sat at the coldest temperature you just got by. At-24C when I went to park the vehicle at the grocery store after a short 4 mile trip...

The article by Mr. Mas goes into the details but the long and short of it as I understand it is that the heater can bleed energy from the battery to do its thing.

How did you do the rest of the winter and are you aware of the class action lawsuit awaiting certification on the cold start issue?

I have heard that same information from a sales manager whom I trust (yes I said that - but he has told/done many things not to his advantage during the time I've dealt with him), another sales manager, and a service manager who only heard it from the dealership's tech when I asked her and she...

It's being looked at as we speak (type).

Check this video review which includes what Mitsu told the reviewer on the record;

I just talked to the dealer I bought the vehicle from. I shopped the country and ended up going to Ottawa, partly for price, partly for availability, but mostly for the no BS approach. He said the best approach for all owners to take is to "bombard" Mitsubishi Customer Service with...

HMMM... Mitsubishi misleads Outlander PHEV Owners on Battery Heater Components

UPDATE - FACT CHECK Noted above is the assertion from the Mitsu Customer Service Rep. that buyers should have been aware that Ourlander PHEV 2023 models had a don't start protection point in "extreme cold" and that, by "international convention" that term is defined as-25C or colder. Checking...

It's the same in Fort Nelson. Many years we've had weeks where the daily high didn't break out of the -30's. This is Canada for Pete's sake. If I wanted to drop a wad of cash on a car I'd have to take off the road for months in the winter I'd not have bought a "reliable" Mitsubishi.

UPDATE [cross-posted to the reddit thread above]: Just off the phone with Mitsu Customer (dis)Service with the cold start issue. After 15 minutes and some prodding on my part the response distills to this: 1. as far as the company is concerned the cold start situation is "not an issue" but they...

"not enough info" is a pretty key element in this whole situation

So roussir, is it the case under cold conditions, the battery would build heat more quickly with the heater off? If so is this true when ambient temperatures are below what I've seen discussed as the minimum operating system temperature of the heat exchanger of -15C?

My experience Parrot, is that plugged in or not I can get a Low Power Warning anywhere below -15C...and it can persist after driving for quite some time. I'm also shut out of "Charge" and "Save" options which doesn't hep in warming the battery. Today with ambient temperature ranging from -20C to...

I see another thread from earlier this year "Drive battery Thermal Management" that brings up the drive battery cooler, something raised in a discussion off site as well. Does this have any contribution to make to the cold battery discussion (I note that at least 1 member of this forum was...

I thought I'd done pretty good due diligence and scanning the web on issues related to the 2023 PHEV in the spring of 2023 when there seemed to be short supply of the units didn't show much. As to believing dealer reps, I'm far from niave, but after talking to 10's of them and getting responses...