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by ThudnBlundr
Sat May 08, 2021 4:51 am
Forum: News and Main Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV Forum Discussions
Topic: Battery Charge/Save Buttons
Replies: 41
Views: 15602

Re: Battery Charge/Save Buttons

All I asked originally was, "Please show me a link to research that proves that this is true for our PHEV. I have still not seen any scientific proof in 3 years of ownership." You can argue all you want, but you haven't answered the question. And then you get angry because I point out you haven't an...
by ThudnBlundr
Thu May 06, 2021 8:34 am
Forum: News and Main Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV Forum Discussions
Topic: Battery Charge/Save Buttons
Replies: 41
Views: 15602

Re: Battery Charge/Save Buttons

So no figures for the PHEV then :roll: Just saying, "It is always true" is not really a proof, is it? Did you actually read the articles? The first is a summary with no figures whatsoever, just bland statements. The second is a report on a test with a motorised chopper, which is obviously exactly li...
by ThudnBlundr
Thu May 06, 2021 8:18 am
Forum: General / Main Outlander PHEV Owners Forum
Topic: Ran out of gas but depleted battery got me home
Replies: 29
Views: 1140

Re: Ran out of gas but depleted battery got me home

We don't have grid scale batteries, and maybe never will have on the scale needed. They are not a panacea, anymore than I'm suggesting that fuel cells and electrolysis are a panacea. They are all part of THE answer, not simply AN answer in themselves. Please recognise that rather than being fixated...
by ThudnBlundr
Wed May 05, 2021 3:05 am
Forum: News and Main Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV Forum Discussions
Topic: Battery Charge/Save Buttons
Replies: 41
Views: 15602

Re: Battery Charge/Save Buttons

kpetrov wrote:
Tue May 04, 2021 5:47 am
The efficiency of ICE is much better on constant highway speeds than in stop and go traffic.
Please show me a link to research that proves that this is true for our PHEV. I have still not seen any scientific proof in 3 years of ownership.
by ThudnBlundr
Mon May 03, 2021 1:39 am
Forum: General / Main Outlander PHEV Owners Forum
Topic: Real-world tests of hybrid cars show higher-than-expected emissions
Replies: 5
Views: 175

Re: Real-world tests of hybrid cars show higher-than-expected emissions

Reading the article, it's even more facile than that. They seem to be saying that PHEVs don't get the fuel consumption that they get in the standard tests. NSS - that's no surprise as almost no cars do. For short journeys, of course the EV side rules and the fuel consumption is almost meaningless. P...
by ThudnBlundr
Mon May 03, 2021 1:33 am
Forum: News and Main Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV Forum Discussions
Topic: Battery Charge/Save Buttons
Replies: 41
Views: 15602

Re: Battery Charge/Save Buttons

While I (think that I) see the point you are trying to make, people are interested in the cost of owning cars, especially these ones with vastly more options than a plain ICE. But I'm disagreeing with your earlier statement that it uses more fuel to use CHRG - it doesn't for the reasons in my previo...
by ThudnBlundr
Sat May 01, 2021 1:52 am
Forum: News and Main Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV Forum Discussions
Topic: Battery Charge/Save Buttons
Replies: 41
Views: 15602

Re: Battery Charge/Save Buttons

all of these hypothesizes on how much gas to charge the battery are pretty much irrelevant. Unless of course you are just asking if sitting my driveway, is it cheaper to use the grid to charge the battery or the ICE You are presumably in the car to get some where. So to get there you need to, in ou...
by ThudnBlundr
Sat May 01, 2021 1:41 am
Forum: Technical Discussions
Topic: Increasing/Upgrading - Higher Battery Capacity
Replies: 19
Views: 8191

Re: Increasing/Upgrading - Higher Battery Capacity

Would that be the same salesman who told me that I could charge the battery in my key fob by putting it in the slot? :roll: :lol: ;) I really think that most of them don't have a clue...
by ThudnBlundr
Fri Apr 30, 2021 11:07 am
Forum: General / Main Outlander PHEV Owners Forum
Topic: Ran out of gas but depleted battery got me home
Replies: 29
Views: 1140

Re: Ran out of gas but depleted battery got me home

I think the grid capacity depends on your location/country. I think that most places in the UK would be able to accommodate the extra capacity for EV charging with some time of use tariffs taking the edge of the peak. But the population density is quite high here, far higher than in BC or most of Ca...
by ThudnBlundr
Fri Apr 30, 2021 11:02 am
Forum: Technical Discussions
Topic: Increasing/Upgrading - Higher Battery Capacity
Replies: 19
Views: 8191

Re: Increasing/Upgrading - Higher Battery Capacity

But doubling the battery capacity (like Renault did for the ZOE) ups the weight by less than 10%. So although you don't quite get double the range, it's pretty close

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