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by kpetrov
Sun Dec 06, 2020 6:53 am
Forum: Technical Discussions
Topic: Idea to stop ICE from starting when cold
Replies: 141
Views: 51904

Re: Idea to stop ICE from starting when cold

It is hardly a flawed. design - It will run the ICE at temperatures below 10º C for the first few kms to get the oil somewhat warmed up to prepare for the full-power ICE starts that it may have to make during driving. That it warms the cabin is a welcome secondary function. The only other way to pr...
by kpetrov
Mon Nov 09, 2020 10:15 am
Forum: Technical Discussions
Topic: ICE Startup Parameters In Cold Weather?
Replies: 17
Views: 4391

Re: ICE Startup Parameters In Cold Weather?

Update:
I fooled the ambient temperature sensor to -5C when real 20C outside and the ICE did not kicked in at all.
It is not the ambient temperature sensor that start the engine or at least it is not only that sensor responsible.
by kpetrov
Mon Nov 09, 2020 10:09 am
Forum: General / Main Outlander PHEV Owners Forum
Topic: Do not be scared of using that charge button.
Replies: 208
Views: 85664

Re: Do not be scared of using that charge button.

I have found that the strategy of using the Charge button really decreases mpg. I would only do this if you anticipate significant stop and go driving at future points in your journey. I find that very hard to believe. If you're doing a trip out of EV range, the car has to use the ICE to provide en...
by kpetrov
Sun Nov 08, 2020 5:05 pm
Forum: Technical Discussions
Topic: ICE Startup Parameters In Cold Weather?
Replies: 17
Views: 4391

Re: ICE Startup Parameters In Cold Weather?

I don't insist it is what it is. Actually under - 5C I will start the ICE by myself anyway but don't see the point of ICE kicking in halfway my trip just to be ready when I turn off the vehicle. Seems there isn't any problem to run on EV mode only for few miles since the ICE don't start immediately...
by kpetrov
Thu Nov 05, 2020 7:24 am
Forum: Technical Discussions
Topic: ICE Startup Parameters In Cold Weather?
Replies: 17
Views: 4391

Re: ICE Startup Parameters In Cold Weather?

If you insist on living somewhere with some of the lowest winter temperatures on the planet then there are going to be compromises :roll: I don't insist it is what it is. Actually under - 5C I will start the ICE by myself anyway but don't see the point of ICE kicking in halfway my trip just to be r...
by kpetrov
Wed Nov 04, 2020 5:18 pm
Forum: Technical Discussions
Topic: ICE Startup Parameters In Cold Weather?
Replies: 17
Views: 4391

Re: ICE Startup Parameters In Cold Weather?

To revive the topic:
2018 Canadian model.
Battery 90%, HVAC ventilation system set to LOWEST temp. and then completely turned OFF, EV and ECO modes ON.
Under 5 ged. Celsius ICE starts after few minutes of driving and goes off just before I reach my daily 5 km trip end. Ridiculous!
by kpetrov
Wed Nov 04, 2020 1:09 pm
Forum: Technical Discussions
Topic: Idea to stop ICE from starting when cold
Replies: 141
Views: 51904

Re: Idea to stop ICE from starting when cold

What Mitsu Canada said about it is the usual: The engine may start under the following conditions. · When the drive battery level becomes low and requires charging · EV system is hot or cold · While the heater or defroster is on · To prevent damage to the engine caused by fuel deterioration... bla, ...
by kpetrov
Sat Oct 31, 2020 8:43 am
Forum: Technical Discussions
Topic: Idea to stop ICE from starting when cold
Replies: 141
Views: 51904

Re: Idea to stop ICE from starting when cold

Still, I cannot but wonder at people who buy a multi-10.000$ piece of gear without checking whether the design fits their needs/wants and then complain about that very design. The design is not flawed - the choice is flawed. Note that preventing the ICE from starting impacts the performance of the ...
by kpetrov
Fri Oct 30, 2020 5:54 am
Forum: Technical Discussions
Topic: Idea to stop ICE from starting when cold
Replies: 141
Views: 51904

Re: Idea to stop ICE from starting when cold

I can confirm, today -2C ambient temp. ICE kicked in after first minute of driving. Battery 80% ventilation system set to LOWEST temp. and OFF for few days already. EV and ECO modes on. "ICE starts warming up the oil to prepare for the full-power that it may have to make during driving!!!" What a cr...
by kpetrov
Thu Oct 29, 2020 1:27 pm
Forum: Technical Discussions
Topic: Idea to stop ICE from starting when cold
Replies: 141
Views: 51904

Re: Idea to stop ICE from starting when cold

Use a battery hairdryer to heat the interior temperature sensor. :lol: The alternative is to preheat it using the app or the timer, or park it in a heated garage. Pulling the fuel pump fuse will work, but it will generate error messages. It would be a hassle too, pulling and replacing according to ...

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