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 Post subject: Re: Save mode / Series on highway [Gary Reed video]
PostPosted: Fri May 10, 2019 4:19 am 
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SenseiMarc wrote:
Hi,

I just join this forum, but am also on a Europeen forum on which I discover that the NA algorithms are different from the EU. In Europe, the SAVE button alternate between parallel and EV. Mine alternate between series and EV. This when over 70km/hr and no high power demand, generally flat RoadSoft, no big hills.

I have personnally experienced much better performance in parallel mode above 70km/hr. On the same 170km trip, using normal SAVE mode I get around 6l/100km. When manaully alternating between CHARGE and EV, I get around 5l/100km. Big difference.

Why this difference between NA and EU version? My guess is EU CO2 emissions are more strict and battery waranty 6 years for EU vs 8 for NA. So less battery stress and more fuel consumption enable Mitsubishi to offer better waranty which they cannot do in EU.

Any comments?


On mine, Save will operate either in parallel or series modes, depending on road speed (among other things)

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 Post subject: Re: Save mode / Series on highway [Gary Reed video]
PostPosted: Fri May 10, 2019 5:39 am 
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Of course Thudenblundr, since you are Europeen !

I think that SenseiMarc is waiting for comments mainly issued from North America ;)


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 Post subject: Re: Save mode / Series on highway [Gary Reed video]
PostPosted: Sat May 11, 2019 3:45 am 
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Ah! Misread the question. D'oh! :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: Save mode / Series on highway [Gary Reed video]
PostPosted: Sun May 12, 2019 2:44 am 
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jaapv wrote:
mellobob wrote:
I think (note: think, not know) that speed is very important in this equation. Faster you go, lower the mpg (in my case, higher l/100km).

We went on a drive yesterday from Creston BC to Sandpoint ID. About 200 km back and froth. Used a full tank of electricity and less than 1/2 tank of gasoline. The PHEV reported 6l/100km. But, the max we drove was around 110 km, little passing, lots of up/down but nothing serious in climbing. I'm sure that if the road had been straight and flat and empty we'd have been around (or below) 5l/100km. Which is pretty amazing for a car of this size and weight. No complaints here.
I find that even imperceptible climbing can make a significant difference. When I drive from my home to the south of Germany which is a 900 km motorway drive with a 800 m altitude difference I find the car runs about 10.5 km/l on the way down and 11.5 km/l back. I've made this run more that ten times and there is always the same effect.


As I've mentioned before this is simple mechanics - I imagine most members can push their car on the flat but I am sure none of us could lift it. :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Save mode / Series on highway [Gary Reed video]
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 Post subject: Re: Save mode / Series on highway [Gary Reed video]
PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2019 8:11 am 
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SenseiMarc wrote:
Why this difference between NA and EU version? My guess is EU CO2 emissions are more strict and battery waranty 6 years for EU vs 8 for NA. So less battery stress and more fuel consumption enable Mitsubishi to offer better waranty which they cannot do in EU.

On the 2019 model, Mitsubishi offers an 8 year or 160.000km battery warranty in the Netherlands

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 Post subject: Re: Save mode / Series on highway [Gary Reed video]
PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2019 11:45 pm 
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I think it also depends on the SoC at which you go into Save mode,
At High SoC the charge current is lower than when in low SoC...
I'll have to check to see if I can get it in Parallel mode when on Save... :?:

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