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 Post subject: Re: Lindqvist method : DIY BMU Battery Reset
PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2019 10:44 pm 
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fprigge wrote:
After reading a lot of suppositions from this forum, I decided to run a DBCAM with the dog running. Here are the numbers:

- DBCAM discharge is at 7.9kW (heater + A/C compressor running full blast!)
- discharge is down to 2.875V on the lowest cell! So it really does a complete discharge.
- cell voltage imbalance at such a low SOC is high (0.308V!!!) while the cells where within 4mV at 29% SOC...

I'll try to add screenshots of the dog!


Very good info

Thanks ;)


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 Post subject: Re: Lindqvist method : DIY BMU Battery Reset
PostPosted: Mon Aug 05, 2019 2:05 am 
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Mitch wrote:
No, Mitsubishi suggest B5 in Stop-and-go.
I get much more KM with B5, tested, in the city.

Mitch, how do you know so much about MMC operations and functions of this vehicle?

Secondly, my car has lost 8km range over the past 3 weeks. Which is absurd and unreasonable to be honest.
Its down to 40km range when fully charged from the slow Euro-plug charger, Chademo got me 33km last time I checked.
Ill check what capacity I have left later on today.

So, I have a car to test on if anyone would like to test something.


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 Post subject: Re: Lindqvist method : DIY BMU Battery Reset
PostPosted: Mon Aug 05, 2019 2:15 am 
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Pomst wrote:
Mitch wrote:
No, Mitsubishi suggest B5 in Stop-and-go.
I get much more KM with B5, tested, in the city.

Mitch, how do you know so much about MMC operations and functions of this vehicle?


I can't tell, otherwise I have to k... you :lol: :mrgreen:

Honest, a lot of informations can be found on the web.
Most reasonable infos are coming form the Russian community.

Rest is learning by doing, testing on my own car.

Reading, learning, testing 8-)

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 Post subject: Re: Lindqvist method : DIY BMU Battery Reset
PostPosted: Mon Aug 05, 2019 2:54 am 
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Pomst wrote:
Mitch wrote:
No, Mitsubishi suggest B5 in Stop-and-go.
I get much more KM with B5, tested, in the city.

Mitch, how do you know so much about MMC operations and functions of this vehicle?

Secondly, my car has lost 8km range over the past 3 weeks. Which is absurd and unreasonable to be honest.
Its down to 40km range when fully charged from the slow Euro-plug charger, Chademo got me 33km last time I checked.
Ill check what capacity I have left later on today.

So, I have a car to test on if anyone would like to test something.


EV range is not a valuable reference.

Just make a very slow trip .. on the next day the EV range will go up
Make a very fast trip ... the next day EV range will do down

+/- 10km in EV range is total normal

Only real reference .. is SOH from WatchDog Apps ...

Alternatively .. which I'm not 100% sure .. is EV range after disconnect the 12v ... this reset the memory of the last trip, which was giving me 52km EV range with an old battery .. and now 59km EV range after reset with almost 100% SOH

Anyhow ... only reference is reading data via OBD2 ...

SOH get update normally every month .. most of time with 0.1Ah lost .. but .. time to time you can expect 0.5Ah lost ... before reset my BMU ... I had 2 0.5Ah lost in less then 2 weeks ... this is quite brutal on EV range.

Now .. after Lindqvist... I'm experiencing my car like it is new :ugeek: ... 10+ km of EV range does really make a difference .. also no need to all time top up for be on the safe side before starting a trip


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 Post subject: Re: Lindqvist method : DIY BMU Battery Reset
PostPosted: Mon Aug 05, 2019 3:56 am 
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EV Range is the ONLY, which is important and from interest!

But not the EV range in the display, I'm talking about the real KM I can drive.

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 Post subject: Re: Lindqvist method : DIY BMU Battery Reset
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Mitch wrote:
EV Range is the ONLY, which is important and from interest!

But not the EV range in the display, I'm talking about the real KM I can drive.


How much you can really drive depends by too many parameters

So, real EV range is not a reference for me.


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 Post subject: Re: Lindqvist method : DIY BMU Battery Reset
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It is and should be for everyone.
If you drive the car, like it is supposed to, then you drive it in EV.
Therefore only the range is from interest.

It's the same like for an BEV. I don't care about SOH, I want to go as far as possible.

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 Post subject: Re: Lindqvist method : DIY BMU Battery Reset
PostPosted: Mon Aug 05, 2019 5:33 am 
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I think ... we think very differently .. but maybe we want to say similar things ...

Yes ... drive a PHEV in a proper way, it means most of the time to maximize the EV usage , or drive in pure EV if possible

Yes .. this require to limit the power to only 60Kw , so no hard acceleration which would implies to start the ICE

Still .. driving in EV mode, there is a big difference in EV range possible ... with my PHEV driving slow (for example never using more then 15kw power) I can do more then 50km in EV mode before the ICE will kick in ... driving "faster" .. using AC or Heating .. it will make the ICE to kick in after 30km of EV mode.

The driving style/speed will also impact on the next EV range on the dash too.

So ... how much we drive in EV, or how much the dash estimate the EV range ... is not a reference for me

Only real reference for the EV possible range, is the SOH with SOC


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 Post subject: Re: Lindqvist method : DIY BMU Battery Reset
PostPosted: Thu Aug 08, 2019 3:06 am 
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Page 1 has been updated ...

I will also add the Method D soon


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 Post subject: Re: Lindqvist method : DIY BMU Battery Reset
PostPosted: Thu Aug 08, 2019 9:09 am 
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Thanks for the other method on page 1.

But you didn't say if your car has had regular services from Mitsubishi, and presumably updates that other cars may not have had?

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