fatnat
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Re: Winter/offroad tyres on 16" rims? Anyone tried?

Wed Mar 28, 2018 5:40 pm

djmoscow wrote:
fatnat wrote:You should should have no problems with 16 inch rims, the alternative specs are in the manual and on the door arch regarding tyre sizes pressures.

Picture attached used original outlander rims with Khumo Venture APT 70 inch tyres

original rims are 18"? so by putting bigger profile tyres will increase overall diameter? will it cause issue with rubbing on the arches etc?

No I meant original non phev outlander or the standard outlander petrol/diesel version 16 inch alloys.There is no increase in diameter or impact on the speedo or arches etc.

I use the 16/70s in summer and the 18/55s in winter.

djmoscow
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Re: Winter/offroad tyres on 16" rims? Anyone tried?

Thu Mar 29, 2018 12:46 am

fatnat wrote:
djmoscow wrote:
fatnat wrote:You should should have no problems with 16 inch rims, the alternative specs are in the manual and on the door arch regarding tyre sizes pressures.

Picture attached used original outlander rims with Khumo Venture APT 70 inch tyres

original rims are 18"? so by putting bigger profile tyres will increase overall diameter? will it cause issue with rubbing on the arches etc?

No I meant original non phev outlander or the standard outlander petrol/diesel version 16 inch alloys.There is no increase in diameter or impact on the speedo or arches etc.

I use the 16/70s in summer and the 18/55s in winter.

ok thanks

EssexBoy
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Re: Winter/offroad tyres on 16" rims? Anyone tried?

Fri Apr 06, 2018 1:15 pm

Steepndeep wrote:No problem. I am running 215/70/16 wintertyres on my PHEV. You can get rims from any decent onlineshop. Bolt pattern is 5/114,3 and ET 38 but normally you just give them the carmodel and they will give you correct recommendations. Width is determined by tyresize so check this before buying. I am not using the TPMS and have the annoying warning sign but otherwise there is no problem running without TPMS. Make sure you get matching bolts because the OEM rims have flathead bolts and most aftermarkets (not all) have conical heads.
Note if you need an MOT it would fail with TPMS warning cos you have your winters fitted.

djmoscow
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Re: Winter/offroad tyres on 16" rims? Anyone tried?

Fri Apr 06, 2018 1:58 pm

EssexBoy wrote:
Steepndeep wrote:No problem. I am running 215/70/16 wintertyres on my PHEV. You can get rims from any decent onlineshop. Bolt pattern is 5/114,3 and ET 38 but normally you just give them the carmodel and they will give you correct recommendations. Width is determined by tyresize so check this before buying. I am not using the TPMS and have the annoying warning sign but otherwise there is no problem running without TPMS. Make sure you get matching bolts because the OEM rims have flathead bolts and most aftermarkets (not all) have conical heads.
Note if you need an MOT it would fail with TPMS warning cos you have your winters fitted.

So my MOT is in September, it passes, then I stick the winter tyres on in November and put summer tyres back on in March before the next MOT. During the winter months I'll have the warning light. But it's passed mot prior to the change. How's does that work? Is that legal?

Steepndeep
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Re: Winter/offroad tyres on 16" rims? Anyone tried?

Sat Apr 07, 2018 10:30 am

In Sweden it is not mandatory to have TPMS fitted so I will not fail MOT. Sweden, and I believe the other Nordic countries, have wisely decided to not require TPMS on tyres as we legally have to change between winter and summer tyres and the aftermarket TPMS is almost more expensive than the tyre itself. The alternative would likely be that everyone runs All-Season studless tyres and they are not really excellent at anything so would increase accidents considerably. It is really impossible to have a rubbermixture which works excellent across the whole temp range from -35C to +35C, and studded wintertyres are illegal in summertime anyways.

EssexBoy
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Re: Winter/offroad tyres on 16" rims? Anyone tried?

Sat Apr 07, 2018 2:41 pm

djmoscow wrote: So my MOT is in September, it passes, then I stick the winter tyres on in November and put summer tyres back on in March before the next MOT. During the winter months I'll have the warning light. But it's passed mot prior to the change. How's does that work? Is that legal?
Well frankly I dunno. Perhaps there's a UK lawyer or policeman on this forum who could help out here. But, the MOT requirement was from Jan 2015 and new cars from Nov '14 had to have TPMS installed. The EU directive is all about type approval and the penalties for non-compliant manufacturers - nothing about drivers on a day to day basis. I would expect the issue might become problematic legally for an insurance company if a car that requires TPMS didn't have it operative and it was in a crash and there was a question as to whether the tyre pressures were correct. That said I would be happier if the car coming towards me on a snowy road had winter tyres and no TPMS rather than summer tyres and working TPMS.

Andrev
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Re: Winter/offroad tyres on 16" rims? Anyone tried?

Thu May 24, 2018 6:52 pm

I noticed a 5% difference between the GPS speed and the speedometer, this last one being optimistic. To get the real thing, better to buy a slightly larger diameter tyres.

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Re: Winter/offroad tyres on 16" rims? Anyone tried?

Fri May 25, 2018 1:22 am

The speedo has to be optimistic by law, so that there is no chance of you speeding. As your tyres wear, the speedo gets faster as the rolling radius decreases, but only by a maximum of around 1%
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gaustin70
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Re: Winter/offroad tyres on 16" rims? Anyone tried?

Sun Jun 02, 2019 4:39 am

Any tried a 225/65R18 size tire?

Or a 235/65R18 size tire?

I picked up a set of 225/65R18 Federal Couragia S/U tires from ebay, will report back when mounted
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Re: Winter/offroad tyres on 16" rims? Anyone tried?

Mon Jun 03, 2019 12:56 am

I'm seriously looking at the Yokohama Geolander G015 AT tires in 235/60/R18, since my OEM Toyos are over 60,000 km, and one has a cut near the bead from being curbed.

I'm waiting for a 40mm lift kit to arrive from Russia, then I'll have that and the tires installed, along with an alignment to make sure it's all still in spec.

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