oscarmax
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Re: The fuel consumption of the PHEV and how I decrease it.

Fri Sep 04, 2020 3:39 am

I think I will stick to ThudnBlundr post he seems to no what he is talking about.
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Sharkins
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Re: The fuel consumption of the PHEV and how I decrease it.

Tue Nov 24, 2020 3:33 am

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@ oscar
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Gorch
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Re: The fuel consumption of the PHEV and how I decrease it.

Thu Jan 28, 2021 12:59 pm

Newly registered but reading for quite a while, I want to say that I have learned a lot from these fuel consumption exploratory and explanatory threads Trex started of. Many thanks for that!

I'm driving my PHEV since March 2020. Meanwhile, I know my regular road ways quite well and can end up routes with an empty SOC reaching garage doors. As we live in lower hills, I have also made experiences on SOC behaviour on climbs and Regen on downs.

Especially on mid length routes where it requires considering the ICU supporting the SOC capacity, I can confirm the fuel numbers reported here at somewhere around 7.2 l/100km and less. Long term data shows that I'm effectively driving 50:50 electric vs. fuel over all. Average fuel consumption in the display shows about 3.5 l/100km. The number I can't believe really. What I can say is that a frequent mixed route of about 90 km ends up at under 6 l/100km in winter times and even below 5l in summer if I recall correctly. Cost logs show that electric driving last year was about half the cost of fuel.

So what am I doing to achieve this? I'm kind of orchestrating Save, Charge, Sport, EV and normal modes. When it became cold late autumn, I began to start with the Sport mode on 4WD to have the engine run and support the heating right from the beginning whilst consuming energy from the SOC. After a while switch to EV mode to prevent serial mode in villages. Out of villages, either use Sport again or switch to Safe or Charge for parallel mode. The latter depends on the strategy of either keeping the SOC level or accumulate to bridge upcoming serial mode distances. All with the focus of ending up with an empty SOC at door steps.

After playing with the B modes at the beginning, I ended up driving B0 most of the time and flexibly use Regen on a finger tip where required. B0 is just relaxing for foot and leg.

This might look like quite a job and hassle. Being used of driving hand geared cars for centuries, its rather fun experimenting while it developed a lot of routine over months. So, I'm not thinking a lot about it really.

kpetrov
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Re: The fuel consumption of the PHEV and how I decrease it.

Fri Jan 29, 2021 7:06 am

Gorch wrote:
Thu Jan 28, 2021 12:59 pm
...This might look like quite a job and hassle. Being used of driving hand geared cars for centuries, its rather fun experimenting while it developed a lot of routine over months. So, I'm not thinking a lot about it really.
Some people are wired to relax and don't care about those stuff some to push it, experiment, do it the optimal way and even get a pleasure from it. 👍
I'm ok with both up to the point when somebody suggest - why you didn't bought an BEV. :twisted:
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Gorch
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Re: The fuel consumption of the PHEV and how I decrease it.

Fri Jan 29, 2021 3:21 pm

kpetrov wrote:
Fri Jan 29, 2021 7:06 am
Gorch wrote:
Thu Jan 28, 2021 12:59 pm
I'm ok with both up to the point when somebody suggest - why you didn't bought an BEV. :twisted:
An Outlander BEV would be just right! 8-)

Just today I have been driving the fore mentioned mixed route again. Temperatures are up to 8•C and fuel was down to 4.6 l/100km on winter tires. Nothing to bother.

Smurali
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Re: The fuel consumption of the PHEV and how I decrease it.

Mon Feb 08, 2021 5:17 pm

How can I force my vehicle to run in parallel hybrid mode runnig in the highway. I find series hybrid mode to be not very good in highway conditions

ChrisMiller
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Re: The fuel consumption of the PHEV and how I decrease it.

Tue Feb 09, 2021 12:50 pm

Smurali wrote: How can I force my vehicle to run in parallel hybrid mode runnig in the highway. I find series hybrid mode to be not very good in highway conditions
You can't really 'force' the car between serial and parallel mode. Because parallel is (generally speaking) more efficient, the electronics typically select parallel mode once speed exceeds ~45mph/70kph. The main exception is if you're demanding high levels of power below speeds of 80mph/130kph, when there's more power available in serial mode.
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Smurali
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Re: The fuel consumption of the PHEV and how I decrease it.

Tue Feb 09, 2021 2:28 pm

ChrisMiller wrote:
Tue Feb 09, 2021 12:50 pm
Smurali wrote: How can I force my vehicle to run in parallel hybrid mode runnig in the highway. I find series hybrid mode to be not very good in highway conditions
You can't really 'force' the car between serial and parallel mode. Because parallel is (generally speaking) more efficient, the electronics typically select parallel mode once speed exceeds ~45mph/70kph. The main exception is if you're demanding high levels of power below speeds of 80mph/130kph, when there's more power available in serial mode.
Well the reason why I asked was...suppose I want to go for a 200 km drive. I start with a full battery and rather than select save right away..would it make more sense to deplete a bit of battery first until i have around 3 bars left and then hit save - this way parallel mode kicks in at speeds of 110 km/hour.
I went for a long drive, hit save with a full battery- after it was below 80 %, the generator just kept driving the vehicle(Series Hybrid Mode) even at highway speeds. This caused my fuel economy to look as if I was driving a tank

ThudnBlundr
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Re: The fuel consumption of the PHEV and how I decrease it.

Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:15 pm

I've found that it stays in Series mode even above 40mph if the battery is cold. I do a 15-mile journey fairly regularly, and Parallel mode doesn't kick in for quite a while if it's near freezing. It's fine in summer.
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kpetrov
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Re: The fuel consumption of the PHEV and how I decrease it.

Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:31 pm

Same here. Colder it is longer it takes for parallel to kick in.
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