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 Post subject: Performance on Road Trips
PostPosted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 10:27 am 
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I'm getting close to buying a 2018 GT. I've gotten to test drive one and was satisfied with the ride. One concern I have is how will this vehicle perform on Western US road trips. Most of my driving will be in EV around town, but I do also take trips where the speed limit is 80 mph and I want to drive that fast. Could be 95 degrees out (AC on) or -10 F heading to Jackson Hole. Are there any limitations with this vehicle being driven fast for hours at a time? Thanks.

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 Post subject: Re: Performance on Road Trips
PostPosted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 10:34 am 
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Your usage sounds similar to mine, mostly local EV and the occasional long trip. Works fine. One thing to be aware of is the relatively small gas tank, so you may need to stop more often than you are used to, or plan ahead if the gas stations are infrequent. I don't find this a problem, but some do. Also, if you have a mountainous end to the tip, it's considered wise to preserve battery using SAVE to help get up the hills - especially if towing.


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 Post subject: Re: Performance on Road Trips
PostPosted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 11:39 am 
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My daily drive has me on the freeway for over 100km (65mi) at 125kmh (82mph), and the vehicle is not straining at all. My range, without overnight charging, is usually 500km (300mi). After 13 months and 60,000km of this, it still feels like a new car. It is also very capable in snow and rain, extremely sure footed, and equally at home on gravel logging roads and trails, limited only by body clearance and tire type. The weather here in BC ranges through the same temps as yours, and I do lose some range in very cold conditions, with my average mpg dropping from 40 to 33 when its near or below freezing.


Buy it and enjoy it.


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 Post subject: Re: Performance on Road Trips
PostPosted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 11:41 am 
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Location: Los Angeles, CA, USA
Welcome !

Here is a topic the STS134 and I discussed about road trip in California.

viewtopic.php?f=9&t=3980&start=50

IMO, it is really nice in high way.

Post questions,

Tai

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 Post subject: Re: Performance on Road Trips
PostPosted: Sun Jun 16, 2019 11:42 pm 
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I did a 700km road trip today, in 10 hrs, with one stop for fuel at 400km, and a stop for lunch and dinner included in that time . It was all in mountain country, with elevation changes from sea level to over 6,000 ft. Speeds varied from70-80 km/hr on the winding 2 lanes, to a max of 160, avg. 125, on the multilane freeway section. I ran in charge mode most of the time, to have adequate e-power for the climbs, and still averaged 36mpg(Imp gal.). That would be about 30 mpg/US gal.

Not bad at all for an SUV of that size and comfort.


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 Post subject: Re: Performance on Road Trips
PostPosted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 1:52 am 
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BCbackroader wrote:
I did a 700km road trip today, in 10 hrs, with one stop for fuel at 400km, and a stop for lunch and dinner included in that time . It was all in mountain country, with elevation changes from sea level to over 6,000 ft. Speeds varied from70-80 km/hr on the winding 2 lanes, to a max of 160, avg. 125, on the multilane freeway section. I ran in charge mode most of the time, to have adequate e-power for the climbs, and still averaged 36mpg(Imp gal.). That would be about 30 mpg/US gal.

Not bad at all for an SUV of that size and comfort.


Interesting stuff. Similar results/sentiments from a 180 mile trip on Sunday. 39mpg, battery was empty when I left. Didn't use charge button as largely flat terrain, motorway 70% of the distance. We were loaded to the gunnels with kiddy stuff. I do notice fuel economy takes a big ol' hit between 65 mph and 80 mph

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 Post subject: Re: Performance on Road Trips
PostPosted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 6:37 am 
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Air resistance* is proportional to speed squared, so will increase by ~50% between 65 & 80 mph.

* as is rolling resistance, but that's more complicated :)

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 Post subject: Re: Performance on Road Trips
PostPosted: Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:30 pm 
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So I bought the 2018 Outlander PHEV GT. I had a 1700 mile road trip home from where I bought it. I did no charging on this trip. It was all interstate highway in the US West with some mountain sections. I normally was driving at 75-80 mph (130 km/hr) on cruise control with the mode set to charge or save. For the trip I averaged 24.0 mpg. I suspect that is about as low as one could expect to see given the speed.

I only had one section of mountain road where the battery level was very low, but was still able to maintain speed.

Now I'm home and plugged in. Which is really the reason I bought this vehicle.

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 Post subject: Re: Performance on Road Trips
PostPosted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 2:35 am 
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ChrisMiller wrote:
Air resistance* is proportional to speed squared, so will increase by ~50% between 65 & 80 mph.

* as is rolling resistance, but that's more complicated :)


Thanks Chris, that's really interesting stuff for a layman. I'll be the one driving at 50mph now! :)

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 Post subject: Re: Performance on Road Trips
PostPosted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 12:08 am 
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VillageIdiotDan wrote:
ChrisMiller wrote:
Air resistance* is proportional to speed squared, so will increase by ~50% between 65 & 80 mph.

* as is rolling resistance, but that's more complicated :)


Thanks Chris, that's really interesting stuff for a layman. I'll be the one driving at 50mph now! :)


Wouldn't recommend it. I did try this 20 years ago to the frustration of my family and other road users. Also very scary being tailgated by trucks on the motorway. :shock:


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