ThudnBlundr
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Re: Best way for charging

Tue Jun 15, 2021 7:44 am

Charging at an EH charger costs 30p/kWh. That gives me 6kWh to 80%, or roughly 20 miles, for £1.80. Assuming 35mpg, 20 miles would use 0.57 gallons or 2.6 litres. At £1.20 per litre, that's over £3 of petrol for my £1.80 charge. Even at an extremely generous 40mpg, that's £2.73
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oscarmax
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Re: Best way for charging

Wed Jun 16, 2021 10:47 am

ThudnBlundr wrote:
Tue Jun 15, 2021 7:44 am
Charging at an EH charger costs 30p/kWh. That gives me 6kWh to 80%, or roughly 20 miles, for £1.80. Assuming 35mpg, 20 miles would use 0.57 gallons or 2.6 litres. At £1.20 per litre, that's over £3 of petrol for my £1.80 charge. Even at an extremely generous 40mpg, that's £2.73
In our area we are paying nearly 1.29 a litre
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greendwarf
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Re: Best way for charging

Fri Jun 18, 2021 4:46 am

Even Tesco Brent Cross is £1.23

oscarmax
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Re: Best way for charging

Fri Jun 18, 2021 11:11 am

greendwarf wrote:
Fri Jun 18, 2021 4:46 am
Even Tesco Brent Cross is £1.23
The Tesco in our area are all 7kWh, however I have recently noticed at our local Tesco it has been cut back to 2.3kWh and now 1.78kWh, cannot see staying free for much longer.
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greendwarf
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Re: Best way for charging

Sat Jun 19, 2021 2:10 am

Well EVs MUST charge but hybrids don't. So when hybrids were the majority it was a useful marketing ploy but as there are increasing numbers of BEVs not only are places like IKEA dropping the lower charging rates for 50 kwh minimum, they can't afford to give away the extra electricity to these new charge guzzlers. :mrgreen:

Fjpod
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Re: Best way for charging

Fri Jun 25, 2021 2:40 am

If you cannot plug in and charge at home, don't buy a plugin car. Buy a regular hybrid.

In my experience here in the US, the cost of public ev charging is high. Everybody is trying to cash in on the ev craze.
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lohr500
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Re: Best way for charging

Fri Jun 25, 2021 11:57 am

@Fjpod, as a soon to be owner of an Outlander phev, I would agree with your conclusions.

A quick check on the available chargers at supermarkets and car parks in my area shows charge rates of around £0.35 per kWh.
My off peak home electricity is £0.089 per kWh and will reduce to £0.05 per kWh once I switch tariff.

So using a commercial charger will cost around £4.55 to charge a flat battery and give circa 28 miles.
If I can achieve 35mpg using petrol/gasoline at £5.70 per UK gallon, then aside from any green benefits, there is very little benefit in going down the phev route. (Or all electric route come to that).

At £0.089 or £0.05 per kWh, it makes a whole load more sense :D Especially as Mitsubishi are doing some great deals right now on low mileage Outlanders as they clear stock before leaving the UK market.

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Re: Best way for charging

Sat Jun 26, 2021 1:10 am

Fjpod wrote:
Fri Jun 25, 2021 2:40 am
If you cannot plug in and charge at home, don't buy a plugin car. Buy a regular hybrid.
Wise advice. Charging at home is so foreign to those still in the ICE age with a bowser habit.

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