dukeinlondon
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Re: Electric heater question

avensys wrote:Hi,
My understanding is that an electric heater element, similar to that in a kettle, heats water which is then pumped into the normal heater that extracts the heat from the water and converts into air. When the engine is running and the water gets to about 65C then a valve opens which lets the hot water from the engine into the heater.
I believe the electric heater is 4.8KW when operating at maximum.
Hope that helps a little.
Kind regards,
Mark
The trip info screen somehow suggests that the heater can draw up to 6kw, but i suppose you got the figure from the official specifications ?
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anko
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Re: Electric heater question

Perhaps it goes up to 6 incl. aircon. The heater by itself is 4.8.

Interestingly enough, turn on the aircon and it is reflected in EV range immediately. Turn on heater, and nothing happens. Perhaps because it cannot predict how long / how much energy will be drawn by the heater?
LowOnCash
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Re: Electric heater question

On the 23 model with heat pump, they use the same engine coolant circuit. I ran some tests on a cold morning and just running the heat pump with the engine off, the heat pump circuit raised the engine temperature from 49 to 74 degrees in 15 min.

On certain Outlander's (image below) they also use an element heater in the HVAC assembly to heat air for the cabin which has no effect on the engine coolant. In addition these heaters do not heat the battery in any manner.

Regards - Mike

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kpetrov
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Re: Electric heater question

LowOnCash wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 5:25 pm On the 23 model with heat pump, they use the same engine coolant circuit. I ran some tests on a cold morning and just running the heat pump with the engine off, the heat pump circuit raised the engine temperature from 49 to 74 degrees in 15 min.

On certain Outlander's (image below) they also use an element heater in the HVAC assembly to heat air for the cabin which has no effect on the engine coolant. In addition these heaters do not heat the battery in any manner.

Regards - Mike
The heat pump in 2023 model and the coolant heaters in any other models do not heat the battery in any manner as well.
2018 Outlander PHEV (Canadian)
LowOnCash
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Re: Electric heater question

Thanks for the reply - As far as I can tell there is no battery heating on the 23 US models at all. I know on some older 19 models the battery had a PTC heater which operated off both level 1&2 charging as well as off the HV battery.

Regards Mike

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