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 Post subject: MY 2019 Phev no wheel paddles?
PostPosted: Fri May 10, 2019 10:31 am 
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Just picked my Outlander Phev today and noticed I have no paddles to adjust the RB. Are paddles standard on all versions in the UK? Mine is the basic Swedish rep’ version which in between the UK bssic and next up.

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 Post subject: Re: MY 2019 Phev no wheel paddles?
PostPosted: Fri May 10, 2019 2:25 pm 
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I will answer my own question. Yes, the rep spec version does not come with paddles for RB. Not sure what impact it will have on it’s overall performance. I did a 110 km drive back home from my office today and was pleasantly surprised how quickly the EV charged up just on motorway driving. Nice to have a big car again after nearly 2 years driving a Volvo V40.

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 Post subject: Re: MY 2019 Phev no wheel paddles?
PostPosted: Sat May 11, 2019 12:28 am 
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Yes, the lowest UK spec ('Juro') has the paddles. Can you still change the braking effect using the 'gear knob'? D is equivalent to B2, but you can increase that to B3 with one backward press and then a second takes it to B5 - but there's no way to reduce it using the knob (except by going into N and then back to D, not recommended and I haven't tried it on the move :) ).

Unless you're going up and down hills, the efficiency improvement that can be achieved using the paddles isn't all that great.

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 Post subject: Re: MY 2019 Phev no wheel paddles?
PostPosted: Sat May 11, 2019 2:02 am 
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Even in the hills the efficiency gain is marginal. It is more the convenience of not having to use the brake pedal downhill.

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 Post subject: Re: MY 2019 Phev no wheel paddles?
PostPosted: Sat May 11, 2019 6:42 pm 
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I like to use the paddles for coasting long downhill stretches and managing the RB while approaching traffic lights.
Not sure if it gains much, but I enjoy it :lol:

So without paddles, you cannot coast in B0 ?

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 Post subject: Re: MY 2019 Phev no wheel paddles?
PostPosted: Sun May 12, 2019 2:30 am 
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Phevy wrote:
I like to use the paddles for coasting long downhill stretches and managing the RB while approaching traffic lights.
Not sure if it gains much, but I enjoy it :lol:

So without paddles, you cannot coast in B0 ?


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 Post subject: Re: MY 2019 Phev no wheel paddles?
PostPosted: Sun May 12, 2019 2:08 pm 
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jaapv wrote:
Even in the hills the efficiency gain is marginal. It is more the convenience of not having to use the brake pedal downhill.


Round here (lots of 15% hills), if I couldn't select at least B3, I'd have to use the brake to hold my speed. And slowing while on downhill stretches needs B5.

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 Post subject: Re: MY 2019 Phev no wheel paddles?
PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2019 12:11 am 
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ChrisMiller wrote:
but there's no way to reduce it using the knob (except by going into N and then back to D, not recommended and I haven't tried it on the move :) ).


It's fine to go from B3/B5 to D on the gearstick - it won't go into neutral unless you hold it across for a couple of seconds, but if you move across and down into D that won't happen. Shame not to have access to B0 and B1 as they can be handy if you're trying to save petrol by coasting on the flat.

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 Post subject: Re: MY 2019 Phev no wheel paddles?
PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2019 3:46 am 
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My understanding is that with careful throttle control you emulate the lower RB settings but it means keeping your eye on the power meter, not such a good idea, but if you keep the power at the changeover point you are coasting.


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 Post subject: Re: MY 2019 Phev no wheel paddles?
PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2019 10:33 am 
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You can coast in any 'B' setting: it's just that in B0 you can coast without your foot on the accelerator. In other 'B' settings, you have to have your foot slightly on the accelerator to stop regen and get the car coasting, with the needle in the power meter flat.

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