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 Post subject: Full charge range reducing
PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 9:45 am 
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Hi All,

looking for some common knowledge amongst the community. I bought my Gx3 about 6 months ago and fully charged it was registering 29-33 miles. now 6 months later fully charged its about 22-24.

im assuming that this is to do with the cooler temps as we're in winter now but wanted to see if this is normal and ill see this go up again in summer. This may also come down to driving style like on ICE range calculations.

any way just wanted to see what the community can advise as "normal"

Steve


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 Post subject: Re: Full charge range reducing
PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 9:59 am 
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Whatever range you were achieving in the summer, don't be surprised if it is reduced by 30% (or more) in the winter. This is due to a combination of reduced battery performance, increased rolling resistance from cold tyres and increased viscosity of cold air. When our PHEV was new, I reckoned on 29 miles maximum in summer, but in the depths of winter 16 miles was pretty good. Those figures are now decreasing with battery age.


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 Post subject: Re: Full charge range reducing
PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 10:22 am 
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maby wrote:
Whatever range you were achieving in the summer, don't be surprised if it is reduced by 30% (or more) in the winter. This is due to a combination of reduced battery performance, increased rolling resistance from cold tyres and increased viscosity of cold air. When our PHEV was new, I reckoned on 29 miles maximum in summer, but in the depths of winter 16 miles was pretty good. Those figures are now decreasing with battery age.



It was more to do with range showing on full charge rather than actual range as i would expect decrease in actual driving, but if the point is just on range shown at full charge then its within normal parameters :)


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 Post subject: Re: Full charge range reducing
PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 3:21 pm 
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That's what I'm currently getting with my 2014 Gx3H with 33k mileage.


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 Post subject: Re: Full charge range reducing
PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 1:48 am 
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sadiaper wrote:
maby wrote:
Whatever range you were achieving in the summer, don't be surprised if it is reduced by 30% (or more) in the winter. This is due to a combination of reduced battery performance, increased rolling resistance from cold tyres and increased viscosity of cold air. When our PHEV was new, I reckoned on 29 miles maximum in summer, but in the depths of winter 16 miles was pretty good. Those figures are now decreasing with battery age.



It was more to do with range showing on full charge rather than actual range as i would expect decrease in actual driving, but if the point is just on range shown at full charge then its within normal parameters :)


Well, the range display is widely known as the "guessometer" for a good reason! Use it to select your lottery numbers, not to predict how far you can go! :-)


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 Post subject: Re: Full charge range reducing
PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2020 11:38 am 
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Bought a 2019 4h with 9k on the clock 10 days ago. Thought the EV range would be around 30 miles but only getting 16 to 20 miles when driving very sedately. Is this normal? Weather has been 4 to 8 degrees Celsius.


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 Post subject: Re: Full charge range reducing
PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2020 12:35 pm 
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RACV wrote:
Bought a 2019 4h with 9k on the clock 10 days ago. Thought the EV range would be around 30 miles but only getting 16 to 20 miles when driving very sedately. Is this normal? Weather has been 4 to 8 degrees Celsius.


Mine is the same, MY19 owned it for three weeks, have already discovered that it shows a range of 20 to 21 miles when the heater and air con is on. Turn them off and it goes up to 27 or 28.


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 Post subject: Re: Full charge range reducing
PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2020 6:08 pm 
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Range will increase significantly when the temp gets into the teens. I've had my '18 for almost 2 years/95k km., and see a 25% variation between summer and winter range here in SW BC, Canada where winters are from 0 to -15C, and summers are 15 to 30C.


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 Post subject: Re: Full charge range reducing
PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 5:29 am 
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It's the same with all EVs unless they have an active heater for the battery pack. The pack simply can't release as much energy when it's cold. Our Zoe shows the same 25% drop at this time of year unless you cane it before charging to warm the battery and don't let it cool down too much before setting off.

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 Post subject: Re: Full charge range reducing
PostPosted: Fri Jan 31, 2020 2:25 am 
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ThudnBlundr wrote:
It's the same with all EVs unless they have an active heater for the battery pack. The pack simply can't release as much energy when it's cold. Our Zoe shows the same 25% drop at this time of year unless you cane it before charging to warm the battery and don't let it cool down too much before setting off.


Which I seem to remember is fitted to Scandinavian models?


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