promobob1965
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Howdy everyone!
I just purchased a new 2018 Outlander PHEV SEL (North American US Version) One month / 1500 miles ago, to replace a 2011 Chevy Volt and 2014 Jeep Compass. So far I am impressed with the Comfort, EV range, and overall fuel efficiency on trips exceeding 100 miles. All and all a VERY impressive vehicle for the cost.
But as good as the vehicle is, it is not without its faults. Some are design issues which might be subjective, some are bugs. DISCLAIMER: I am not intentionally trying to belittle or bash the vehicle (I own one), but trying to get a better understanding of common problems and potential solutions to those problems (with your help), as such I am hoping responses will be constructive.
With the disclaimer set here is what I am finding when I drive my new 2018 Outlander PHEV:
DC: Gearshift lever is (IMHO) pointless and a waste of good console space. I would love to see the cupholder in it's place, but I am getting use to wedging my American "Big Gulp" under the dash.
DC: Button placement (IMHO) really needs improvement. Useful buttons like tripometer select are obscured from view, while other buttons that are rarely utilized (Hazzard) are within unnecessarily easy reach. You have a big rectangle of real estate used for to buttons (Hazzard, ECON) and two indicator lights. So for example, one could remove the indicator lamps, or make the HAZZARD, and ECON buttons smaller and put the EV, CHARGE, and HOLD buttons on the dash.
DC: The necessity of that stupid android app to set features like cabin preconditioning. Besides being a security flaw, I *think* it worked ONCE argh.... Why the hell couldn't they have implemented preconditioning/remote start feature on the key FOB like everyone else. If they can program the WiFi App through though a key fob sequence, they can surely start the car with a different key fob sequence without additional hardware to correct this WiFi APP "mistake".
DC: The center display takes a RIDICULOUS amount of time to initialize. First with a Mitsubishi logo, then an XM logo, then a acknowledgement (nag) button. All told it takes like 15-20 seconds before I can scroll to the vehicle info display. WTF?
BUG: Occasionally I get an added bonus after my 20 second wait: The center console screen locks up and I cannot scroll to the vehicle info icon at all, and have to shut off the car and reinitialize the system. Again, WTF??? This has happened more than once.
DC and/or BUG: Speaking of the vehicle Info application: I want my economy data to persist, so I turn off the Auto Data Reset. Why do I have to turn the "Auto Data Reset" to off EVERY TIME I START THE VEHICLE???? The auto reset feature resets the economy data after the vehicle is inactive for four hours. Doesn't it stand to reason if I don't want a reset from being off for four hours, I would wish that selection to persist through a power cycles that occur in less time? Also wouldn't an option to reset after a full traction battery charge be better than some arbitrary (4 hour) amount of time? Why four hours when a US work day is eight hours? (putting face in hand).
BUG: Sometimes the car goes into hybrid mode, and will ***NOT*** go into EV mode, even with a near full charge in the traction battery, and all climate controls turned off. The driver gauge display says its in EV mode, but you can hear the engine (and see it on the vehicle info display). When the car comes to a standstill the engine stops, so it's not like it is following some minimum engine runtime timer. In ECON mode and gingerly hitting the accelerator the engine roars back to life. The only way to get it to go into EV mode is to shut off the car and reinitialize the system. This has happened more than once.
BUG: Sometimes when I drive on the highway, I put the vehicle in battery saver mode (as indicated in the driver gauge panel), and NOTHING HAPPENS the vehicle continues to run in EV mode and drain the battery. I then have to go into battery charge mode to get the car out of EV only mode, and get some charge in the battery. This has happened more than once.
The fasten seat belt chime continues to sound even when the vehicle is placed in park. You have to buckle the seatbelt to silence the chime EVEN WITH THE VEHICLE IN PARK!!!
I bought the car because it was well regarded by owners and critics world-wide over the last 5 years. These "features" aside, I still believe it was a sound decision. But what I can't believe is that a model in production for so long would have these kind of stupid bugs. Does anyone from Mitsubishi read the boards? I would hate to think such an amazing vehicle would be marred by such a lack of common sense, or attention to detail.
Anyway, I would appreciate any constructive input one may provide. Has anyone else encountered any of these things? If so, what if anything did you do?
Thanks in advance,
Bob
I just purchased a new 2018 Outlander PHEV SEL (North American US Version) One month / 1500 miles ago, to replace a 2011 Chevy Volt and 2014 Jeep Compass. So far I am impressed with the Comfort, EV range, and overall fuel efficiency on trips exceeding 100 miles. All and all a VERY impressive vehicle for the cost.
But as good as the vehicle is, it is not without its faults. Some are design issues which might be subjective, some are bugs. DISCLAIMER: I am not intentionally trying to belittle or bash the vehicle (I own one), but trying to get a better understanding of common problems and potential solutions to those problems (with your help), as such I am hoping responses will be constructive.
With the disclaimer set here is what I am finding when I drive my new 2018 Outlander PHEV:
DC: Gearshift lever is (IMHO) pointless and a waste of good console space. I would love to see the cupholder in it's place, but I am getting use to wedging my American "Big Gulp" under the dash.
DC: Button placement (IMHO) really needs improvement. Useful buttons like tripometer select are obscured from view, while other buttons that are rarely utilized (Hazzard) are within unnecessarily easy reach. You have a big rectangle of real estate used for to buttons (Hazzard, ECON) and two indicator lights. So for example, one could remove the indicator lamps, or make the HAZZARD, and ECON buttons smaller and put the EV, CHARGE, and HOLD buttons on the dash.
DC: The necessity of that stupid android app to set features like cabin preconditioning. Besides being a security flaw, I *think* it worked ONCE argh.... Why the hell couldn't they have implemented preconditioning/remote start feature on the key FOB like everyone else. If they can program the WiFi App through though a key fob sequence, they can surely start the car with a different key fob sequence without additional hardware to correct this WiFi APP "mistake".
DC: The center display takes a RIDICULOUS amount of time to initialize. First with a Mitsubishi logo, then an XM logo, then a acknowledgement (nag) button. All told it takes like 15-20 seconds before I can scroll to the vehicle info display. WTF?
BUG: Occasionally I get an added bonus after my 20 second wait: The center console screen locks up and I cannot scroll to the vehicle info icon at all, and have to shut off the car and reinitialize the system. Again, WTF??? This has happened more than once.
DC and/or BUG: Speaking of the vehicle Info application: I want my economy data to persist, so I turn off the Auto Data Reset. Why do I have to turn the "Auto Data Reset" to off EVERY TIME I START THE VEHICLE???? The auto reset feature resets the economy data after the vehicle is inactive for four hours. Doesn't it stand to reason if I don't want a reset from being off for four hours, I would wish that selection to persist through a power cycles that occur in less time? Also wouldn't an option to reset after a full traction battery charge be better than some arbitrary (4 hour) amount of time? Why four hours when a US work day is eight hours? (putting face in hand).
BUG: Sometimes the car goes into hybrid mode, and will ***NOT*** go into EV mode, even with a near full charge in the traction battery, and all climate controls turned off. The driver gauge display says its in EV mode, but you can hear the engine (and see it on the vehicle info display). When the car comes to a standstill the engine stops, so it's not like it is following some minimum engine runtime timer. In ECON mode and gingerly hitting the accelerator the engine roars back to life. The only way to get it to go into EV mode is to shut off the car and reinitialize the system. This has happened more than once.
BUG: Sometimes when I drive on the highway, I put the vehicle in battery saver mode (as indicated in the driver gauge panel), and NOTHING HAPPENS the vehicle continues to run in EV mode and drain the battery. I then have to go into battery charge mode to get the car out of EV only mode, and get some charge in the battery. This has happened more than once.
The fasten seat belt chime continues to sound even when the vehicle is placed in park. You have to buckle the seatbelt to silence the chime EVEN WITH THE VEHICLE IN PARK!!!
I bought the car because it was well regarded by owners and critics world-wide over the last 5 years. These "features" aside, I still believe it was a sound decision. But what I can't believe is that a model in production for so long would have these kind of stupid bugs. Does anyone from Mitsubishi read the boards? I would hate to think such an amazing vehicle would be marred by such a lack of common sense, or attention to detail.
Anyway, I would appreciate any constructive input one may provide. Has anyone else encountered any of these things? If so, what if anything did you do?
Thanks in advance,
Bob