You don't buy the battery, you lease / rent it. Zoe's can be bought incl. or excl. battery.ChrisMiller said:1. For a pure EV the battery forms a significant part of the value of the vehicle, and as we all know they deteriorate (slowly) with age and use. Imagine you've just paid £50k for a shiny new electric BMW - how happy are you going to be, the first time you 're low on juice, for the battery to be swapped for one from a 10-year-old Dacia?
Total mount of energy needed is not affected (unless you see the success of the setup as part of its own problem ;-) ). Recharge task is spread out over 24 hours per day instead of being cramped in a series of '30 minutes or less' windows. So, amount of power needed would potentially be less.ChrisMiller said:2. We've swapped the battery - great, now what do we do with it? If it's recharged at the 'filling station', each filling station is going to need a multi-megawatt power supply to cope with typical daily usage
anko said:You don't buy the battery, you lease / rent it. Zoe's can be bought incl. or excl. battery.
Well, it wouldn't be your battery then. I mean, maybe your brand new BMW was delivered to you with a 10 year old battery with 150k miles on it. Who would know? :mrgreen: And if, as Sumpy suggests, battery condition is warranted, what would be the issue?ChrisMiller said:anko said:You don't buy the battery, you lease / rent it. Zoe's can be bought incl. or excl. battery.
True, but I'm still not swapping my brand new battery for one that's 10 years old with 150,000 km on the clock. Because I'd quite like to get home tonight.
No, but if everybody had an EV, to paraphrase the famous Jaws quote, "You're gonna need a bigger power station". MUCH bigger!!Sumpy said:. . but if we could have a range of 350 plus miles then will we really need the ICE?
Well, if your destination is more than 350 miles off an ICE should come in handy... :twisted:Sumpy said:A further problem that would prevent this is the initial cost of setting up the network, it would be too expensive and if battery technology keeps advancing as fast as it is (Tesla X has a 100kwh battery and a claimed 351 mile range) then within a few years and before the battery replacement scheme started making any profit, battery capacity and price will be the more affordable option. I only hope that Mitsubishi will see fit to have a scheme of upgrading the PHEV's that we already have with the higher capacity batteries as they become affordable, but if we could have a range of 350 plus miles then will we really need the ICE?
If you imagine taking out the ICE and filling the front of the PHEV with more batteries*, you might be able to get close to 90 or even 100kWh. Then what? It would take most of us two days to recharge from 'empty', so you'd need a high-speed charger at home, which (at least, for many UK customers) would require rewiring the house and possibly a new electric feed.Sumpy said:if we could have a range of 350 plus miles then will we really need the ICE?
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