Phevy said:I like to use the paddles for coasting long downhill stretches and managing the RB while approaching traffic lights.
Not sure if it gains much, but I enjoy it :lol:
So without paddles, you cannot coast in B0 ?
jaapv said:Even in the hills the efficiency gain is marginal. It is more the convenience of not having to use the brake pedal downhill.
ChrisMiller said:but there's no way to reduce it using the knob (except by going into N and then back to D, not recommended and I haven't tried it on the move).
ChrisMiller said:Yes, the lowest UK spec ('Juro') has the paddles. Can you still change the braking effect using the 'gear knob'? D is equivalent to B2, but you can increase that to B3 with one backward press and then a second takes it to B5 - but there's no way to reduce it using the knob (except by going into N and then back to D, not recommended and I haven't tried it on the move).
Unless you're going up and down hills, the efficiency improvement that can be achieved using the paddles isn't all that great.
Molnboman said:ChrisMiller said:Yes, the lowest UK spec ('Juro') has the paddles. Can you still change the braking effect using the 'gear knob'? D is equivalent to B2, but you can increase that to B3 with one backward press and then a second takes it to B5 - but there's no way to reduce it using the knob (except by going into N and then back to D, not recommended and I haven't tried it on the move).
Unless you're going up and down hills, the efficiency improvement that can be achieved using the paddles isn't all that great.
Yes, out of D you can “tap” to B1 & B2 and switching to sport mode, it goes to B5! My daily commute is mostly motorway for about 60 miles with 5 miles either way as urban. So, the car seems to charge up to 95% charge on the motorway.
Mike01Hu said:My understanding is that with careful throttle control you emulate the lower RB settings but it means keeping your eye on the power meter, not such a good idea, but if you keep the power at the changeover point you are coasting.
ThudnBlundr said:You can coast in any 'B' setting: it's just that in B0 you can coast without your foot on the accelerator. In other 'B' settings, you have to have your foot slightly on the accelerator to stop regen and get the car coasting, with the needle in the power meter flat.
ChrisMiller said:Round here (lots of 15% hills), if I couldn't select at least B3, I'd have to use the brake to hold my speed. And slowing while on downhill stretches needs B5.
To be fair, most people have been doing something very similar in pure ICE vehicles without thinking. You simply vary the pressure on the accelerator until you're maintaining the desired speed. So doing the same using higher 'B' numbers should be intuitive and require no looking down at the gauges. And coasting should not be seen as an end in itself, but as a means to achieving decent economy; so if it needs slight acceleration or slight braking to maintain the desired speed your brain manages it without thinking. But using B0 you cannot slow down without using the brake, whereas in higher 'B' numbers it's trivial.littlescrote said:Both correct. It's not easy to get just so without energy flow one way or the other though, certainly not as easy as just lifting off completely in B0
ThudnBlundr said:To be fair, most people have been doing something very similar in pure ICE vehicles without thinking. You simply vary the pressure on the accelerator until you're maintaining the desired speed. So doing the same using higher 'B' numbers should be intuitive and require no looking down at the gauges. And coasting should not be seen as an end in itself, but as a means to achieving decent economy; so if it needs slight acceleration or slight braking to maintain the desired speed your brain manages it without thinking. But using B0 you cannot slow down without using the brake, whereas in higher 'B' numbers it's trivial.littlescrote said:Both correct. It's not easy to get just so without energy flow one way or the other though, certainly not as easy as just lifting off completely in B0
I'm sorry, but have you any evidence for your bold statements? Or are you confusing opinions with facts?MadTechNutter said:Driving only in B5 and trying to hold the pedal somewhere in between is not a good thing.
There are thermal losses using regen and the higher the regen current the more losses.
Using B0 as much as possible will always be the most efficient way to drive but only using B5 to slow down at higher speeds will not only have the highest losses but put stress on the battery.
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