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 Post subject: Re: 2016 Outlander keyfob hack. REMOTE HEATER!
PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 2:30 am 
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Regulo wrote:
Thanks MrP,

That's the one I've got on order, too, but thinking about it I think the later key fob with the side button might be a better solution. Elm70 seemed to have a bit of fiddling to do with the fob we've ordered.


For be precise ...

My first mod, I did use the ebay new case with 4th button .. but the switch button that I did solder was not the ideal one ..

There are two type of micro switch buttons ... one that is flat, and one that has a little extension.

So ... I end up modifying the 2nd KeyFob with the proper flat switch .. and I was able to fit this inside the ebay new case without much problem.

The other modified keyfob I did took my original keyfob case, drill a hole in the plastic .. and cover the hole with red silicon

Both keys are working fine for me ....

Still I don't get the logic of the car blinking ...

My PHEV does blink only twice .. on the first and second request for start pre-heating ... but if pre-heating is on going (due to timer or previous request) .. there is no confirmation blinking that I did double press on the keyfob

In some very rare cases ... I have the surprise that pre-heating did not work as expected


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 Post subject: Re: 2016 Outlander keyfob hack. REMOTE HEATER!
PostPosted: Sat Jan 06, 2018 1:40 am 
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ktd wrote:
Tried this mod on my new -17 and it dosent seem to work. Nothing happens when I put a jumper between SW3 to times either.
Has anyone been able to get this working on a -17 PHEV?

Also tried on my 2017 Juro with no luck. I don't have the tailgate release and shorting the pads for that switch has no effect so maybe this (both functions) are disabled in firmware?


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 Post subject: Re: 2016 Outlander keyfob hack. REMOTE HEATER!
PostPosted: Sat Jan 06, 2018 3:01 pm 
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Has anyone gotten this to work on a 2017? I have a 2018 on the way, but I’m guessing it won’t work for a 2018 if it doesn’t work on a 2017.


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 Post subject: Re: 2016 Outlander keyfob hack. REMOTE HEATER!
PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 2:33 pm 
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Thanks to all who contributed to this thread. I got the 4-button case today and all is now assembled and working. Why this wasn't an original feature I just can't work out. As far as I'm concerned you have to be as close to the car when using the appallingly slow app as you do to use the remote, so why bother with all that nonsense when a simple push on the remote would do the job? The oriental mind works in mysterious ways!!

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 Post subject: Re: 2016 Outlander keyfob hack. REMOTE HEATER!
PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 12:07 am 
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Regulo wrote:
... Why this wasn't an original feature I just can't work out. As far as I'm concerned you have to be as close to the car when using the appallingly slow app as you do to use the remote, so why bother with all that nonsense when a simple push on the remote would do the job? The oriental mind works in mysterious ways!!


Let us consider as a working assumption that the App is sending data (of whatever type) back to the manufacturer.
Some decisionmaker in MMC said: "We need this data, from as many buyers as possible!"
Et voilá! We have a perfect reason for removing the Remote Heater function from the key.


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 Post subject: Re: 2016 Outlander keyfob hack. REMOTE HEATER!
PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 2:35 am 
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You have a natural suspicious, cynical nature, Harald! ;) .

It seems strange to have the keyfobs coded to send the instruction, and the car coded to receive and act on that instruction, and then never implement it. Who knows?

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 Post subject: Re: 2016 Outlander keyfob hack. REMOTE HEATER!
PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 4:52 am 
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I would not understand such a theory as "cynical".
It just shows nicely, that the same story can be completely logical from another point of view.


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 Post subject: Re: 2016 Outlander keyfob hack. REMOTE HEATER!
PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 6:57 am 
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Harald wrote:
Regulo wrote:
... Why this wasn't an original feature I just can't work out. As far as I'm concerned you have to be as close to the car when using the appallingly slow app as you do to use the remote, so why bother with all that nonsense when a simple push on the remote would do the job? The oriental mind works in mysterious ways!!


Let us consider as a working assumption that the App is sending data (of whatever type) back to the manufacturer.
Some decisionmaker in MMC said: "We need this data, from as many buyers as possible!"
Et voilá! We have a perfect reason for removing the Remote Heater function from the key.


This is quite easy to be verified ...

On Android it will be easily visible if any traffic over the 3G data is used by the PHEV Apps

Anyhow ... there are millions of possible reasons why this feature has been "aborted" by Mitsubishi , and just left as uncompleted function ... most likely the marketing department was not happy with this key fob extra function


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 Post subject: Re: 2016 Outlander keyfob hack. REMOTE HEATER!
PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 8:45 am 
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I fitted the 4th switch today & soldered the link wire to TP6.
When pressing the 4th button twice quickly (as you would for the boot), the led flashed on the remote but the car (2015 model) did not respond at all.

Having read more from another site, I decided to connect the link wire to TP5.
Now when I pressed the 4th button twice quickly, the car responded with 3 short & fast indicator flashes.
I went back to the car after 15 minutes, put my ear to the drivers window & could hear the heater blower running.
When I opened the door, the blower stopped as expected. The cabin was cosy & warm. :D


So, do 2015 onward models (with 4 button fob) all need TP5 connected for this feature to work?

And, If the main battery is low, will the engine start or will the feature simply be inhibited?
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:arrow: Just checked today, also works whilst connected to the charger. :D

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 Post subject: Re: 2016 Outlander keyfob hack. REMOTE HEATER!
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I don't think the engine will start - you might be remote heating while your car is in the garage. Danger of CO fumes accumulating. I presume the heating/cooling would stop if the battery went too low, but wouldn't know for certain. I don't think Mitsu will let you flatten the battery just to heat the car.

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