824km single charge/gas range - what's your best?

[marta]

Felix Egolf goes 824km on 1 charge/fuelup in Outlander PHEV

Some of it is lost in translation, but here's the full article:
http://www.autozine.nl/nieuws/nieuws_archief.php?nk=13177

Mitsubishi Motors Outlander for the plug-inhybride PHEV claims a range of 824 km in the combined hybrid mode. The Swiss Mitsubishi-importer wanted to know if that is feasible in practice and switched the Swiss Felix Egolf; a specialist in the field of ultra energy-efficient driving over long distances.

What's the furthest you've made it on a single charge and fuel up in your Outlander PHEV

 

[savefuel]

Hi everybody,
just to give you a inside view: the drive was performed from 4 pm until 5 am the next day.
I only stopped for photo shots and dinner. DRL were on, headlights were on from 8:30 pm to the end of the drive. Major cities crossed were Basle, Colmar, Metz, Liege, Eindhoven and Amsterdam. Payload was ca. 120 kgs. CHARGE option was used to primarily cover distances in cities electrically. Cruising speeds were ca. 55 mph/88 km/h. The tank wasn't emptied completely. I went to a gas station as soon as 'my math told me' (I work with the two low fuel warning levels of the vehicle and calculate the remaining safe distance).
The PHEV tank holds slightly more than 45 litres. On the return way I covered 782 kms but without electric charge. Remember: Range values solely based on NEDC values are always rather hard to achieve but if you drive accordingly (which means if you try to drive in a similar manner as the vehicles has been certified) you'll get there...

 

[rjcarte]

Thanks for this. A real inspiration for driving frugally!

 

[dukeinlondon]

So is it a good policy to press charge when approaching some urban driving?

 

[jaapv]

No; that will be a bit costly in petrol. Better to drive the car on Save on the motorway. Use Charge only if you need to top up as much as possible for instance during intensive mountain driving or before entering a combustion-engine restricted zone.

 

[Steven]

Can you press the charge button at any highway speed? My PHEV, when driving on the engine, automatically uses 10l/100KM. No matter what speed i'm driving. but surely it will use more for battery charging and less for driving at lower speed. What is the ideal charging speed. Or shouldn't I touch it at all and lett the car do the maths. just press save when on the highway, my average is on 5.9 after 1500KM

 

[jaapv]

Using charge is not very good for economy - the charge button is not meant to save petrol, it is meant to build up a reserve of electricity if you know you will need full power.

 

[anko]

..., it is meant to build up a reserve of electricity if you know you will need full power.

Or if you want to be able to drive pure EV in an upcoming low speed zone.

Using charge is not very good for economy ...

My daily commute is approx 10 km at 60 km/h or less, then 25 km at approx. 80 km/h and then again 5 km at 60 km/h or less. On warmer days, I can do this pure EV, but not on colder days. EV range is falling short just a few KMs. My approach for this trip is to run in parallel hybrid mode during the last part of the faster section (forced by using Charge mode) rather than run in serial hybrid mode during the slower section towards the end. With this approach, less mechanical energy has to be converted into electrical energy and back (as larger part of the mechanical energy produced by the engine is applied directly to the wheels), so there are less conversion losses. Although it is virtually impossible to prove, I think this approach is more efficient than doing noting.

 

[Grigou]

Same strategy for me.

You are right when you say that it is virtually impossible to prove, but we can also say that is impossible to prove that "using charge is not very good for economy".

 

[Steven]

I think you're right. In slow sections with al lot of speed changes it will be wise to drive in ev mode. But till what speed is the charge button effective? 100km/p/h? I assume it will use all the energy to keep the car moving at 120 or higher. Allthough in hybrid it will switch between charging and ev every 2km. So charge and save some km for the slow sections at the end.

What is your average? Mine is 5,9 at the moment. It is slowely going down from 6,5. Due to xmas al lot of long family visit trips 120 km single way

 

[anko]

Oh, that. :idea:

http://www.myoutlanderphev.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=1907&p=21993&hilit=parallel+124#p21993

My average is currently 3.83 l / 100 km. But it doesn't mean a lot. It all depends on, as you have experienced yourself, the length of your trips. My average was well below 3 for a long time. This got messed up during the first caravan season ;-)

 

[Kim]

Well, I never empty'ed my tank....

But every saturday on my way to our shooting range and back (60km), my Outi in warm months drives all the 60 km pure EV and in colder conditions with winter tyres aprox. 50-55 km.
Back home I need to recharge about 9.5kWh.

 

[anko]

But every saturday on my way to our shooting range and back (60km), my Outi in warm months drives all the 60 km pure EV and in colder conditions with winter tyres aprox. 50-55 km.

This is simply not fair to the rest of us ... :evil:

 

[Kim]

This is simply not fair to the rest of us ... :evil:

And there's a 150 meter long, steep 45° climb out of a gravel pit, followed by 500 meters mild off road conditions involved on that route, which sure eats up at least 2-3 km of range...

 

[anko]

This is simply not fair to the rest of us ... :evil:

And there's a 150 meter long, steep 45° climb out of a gravel pit, followed by 500 meters mild off road conditions involved on that route, which sure eats up at least 2-3 km of range...

Hmmm, if you need to climb out of it, you have also driven into it .....

 

[greendwarf]

But every saturday on my way to our shooting range and back (60km), my Outi in warm months drives all the 60 km pure EV and in colder conditions with winter tyres aprox. 50-55 km.

This is simply not fair to the rest of us ... :evil:

But don't forget, in that thin Alpine atmosphere, he doesn't have the same thick air resistance you find down in the depths below sea level in Holland :lol:

 

[anko]

That is true (he said with a very low voice).