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1. Owner since March 2016
2. Model is outlander phev G4
4. What attracted you to the car initially - government subsidies
5. Location - city & country, Kent, UK
6. Occupation (plus what that means in real language) Parent, Publisher,
7. Experience of EV/REV/PHEV you have had before. none
 
1. Owner 7/4/16
2. G5HS. Facelift
4. Nearly bought an X3 but working on a two seat electric vehicle design made me look at alternatives - really impressed with Outlander on test drive
5. Newport Wales
6. Managing Director of Engineering Design Consultancy
7. None - first ever new car
 
1. possible owner - hopefully by the weekend will be confirmed! :eek: (we only went to look ...)
2. possible model 15 GX5HS
3. Facelift / non facelift ????
4. What attracted you to the car initially - being able to tow and use leccy
5. Location - city & country -Near Middlesbrough
6. Occupation (plus what that means in real language) IT Support 3rd line
7. Experience of EV/REV/PHEV you have had before - 10,000 mile in a Nissan Leaf (officially OH car but I have used it mostly for my commute)
 
Hi all!
Glad I found this forum. Really a forum junkie, and always try to find some on line community when I'm (about to) getting a new gadget (also a gadget junkie...)

1. My PHEV will be delivered May 12 - I can hardly wait.
2. 2016 PHEV Business Nav, Orient Red Metallic
3. I guess 2016 is a Facelift model?
4. Our loved and trusted Mini Clubman was starting to feel a little bit too small (lots of building material and stuff to haul to and from our summer house) and explored the pure EV/hybrid EV market. After lots of comparisions (VW Passat hybrid, Kia Soul EV...) The Mitsubishi came out at the top (bang for bucks). A test drive told us this is the car we can live with for the coming three years or so.
5. Located in Gothenburg, Sweden.
6. IT consultants. Spend my days in front of a keyboard and three big screens, developing mostly web sites for our local government. Maybe I'll hack up some Android app to use with the PHEV if I get the need and inspiration.
7. This will be my first non ICE car I've ever owned. The test drive was my first first hand experience with any kind of electric car what so ever. My theory is that the PHEV will bridge the gap until pure EV cars have the range (and price tag) to make them a better option.
 
As I have not properly introduced myself since joining last year my details are:
1. Owned since May 2015. Colt Car Retail (CCR) Used Cars; a 5 months old, 2900 mile demo car.
2, GX4h Glacier Blue
3. A non facelift; I would love to trade in for a 17 Reg before 01 April 2017. However, read in the motoring section of the Sunday Times, 2 or 3 months ago, that the enhancement to the suspension on the facelift 2016 model, supposedly done by Mitsubishi after listening to its owners, has actually made the ride harder, not the way to be going for this type of car!
4. Since 1993 I have owned three Shoguns, a Kia Sorento and latterly before the PHEV, a 08 Reg 2.2 Diamond Outlander. I have been interested in the PHEV since it was first mentioned in the Motoring Press and I was keen to get back to an Auto gearbox SUV. However concerns over the recent diesel emissions debate prevented me saving money and buying the ASX 2.2 diesel 7 speed auto 4x4 (same setup as the Outlander Diesel auto) and very impressive on a test drive. However as well as feeling smug at not running a diesel, I am now hugely impressed by the electric driving experience Mitsubishi with UK’s GKN Driveline, have produced. It is the Hybrid drivetrain for the future, eliminating the need for Gear boxes, differentials, 4 WHD transmissions etc which most of the other PHEV offerings have not done, yet.
5. Wiltshire, near Salisbury
6. Retired
7. No previous experience except as a child on “Dodgem (bumper) cars! Having now done nearly 10K miles in 10 plus months including my two annual fishing trips to Scotland (Outer Hebrides and the Aberdeenshire River Dee), I am very happy with the driving experience. Of course you have to plan off motorway refueling stops to fill up every 300 odd miles and ensure you have sufficient charge left in the Drive battery for known hill climbs on route, but not a problem thanks to Google, Morrison's supermarkets S/Stns, CYC and Ecotricity charging. Being able to drive on the single track/passing place roads or twisting roads in general in the Highlands with selective Regen Braking on Paddles is brilliant and must be saving a lot of brake pad wear as well as gasoline. There was even a CYC Network Charging Post last year at the Lochmaddy ferry terminal, 2 minutes’ walk from my hotel. On the River Dee trip in April, I had the opportunity to take the car off road on some challenging rutted tracks to reach some of the Salmon pools, following the Gillie’s Landrover in. I can say that providing the ruts are not too deep (they weren't), this car does the business even on slopes and tight corners. Even at a crawling low speed, with the 4 WHD locked and the AWC switched off, the car on battery had no problems “hauling” itself up some seriously sloped rutted dirt tracks which would have stalled an ICU vehicle unless you gave the accelerator pedal some “welly” which you might not want to do with 20+K's worth of ones own precious car on a narrow track! This is the advantage of a powerful electric motor on each axle. The only concern I have now, is what will happen with the battery pack! At what stage do you call it a day and ask Mitsubishi for a replacement? Will it be cheaper than currently predicted? Or should you trade in for something else before the 5 year warranty runs out on the Hybrid system? Will I regret not buying a diesel SUV?
 
deskry said:
The only concern I have now, is what will happen with the battery pack! At what stage do you call it a day and ask Mitsubishi for a replacement? Will it be cheaper than currently predicted?

I guess that depends a little bit on which predictions you're looking at.

I will not be surprised if a new battery replacement industry springs up to service all the electric and hybrid cars that are on, and coming on to, the market now.

It may be a simple as buying a replacement battery for a laptop, or telephone (i.e. lots of suppliers competing for business).

I won't be surprised if we find battery packs, still running at 80% of their original specs in 30 years time.

:)

Andy
 
AndyInOz said:
deskry said:
The only concern I have now, is what will happen with the battery pack! At what stage do you call it a day and ask Mitsubishi for a replacement? Will it be cheaper than currently predicted?

I guess that depends a little bit on which predictions you're looking at.

I will not be surprised if a new battery replacement industry springs up to service all the electric and hybrid cars that are on, and coming on to, the market now.

It may be a simple as buying a replacement battery for a laptop, or telephone (i.e. lots of suppliers competing for business).

I won't be surprised if we find battery packs, still running at 80% of their original specs in 30 years time.

:)

Andy

Hope so, but in the meantime the end of battery warranty and/or lease has a dramatic effect on re-sale value. I did toy with the idea of a 3 year old, out of lease, Renault Fluence offered at a knock-down price of £3k before getting the PHEV in 2014. However, as it was in the north of England, I would have had to have it transported down to London, as I couldn't be sure of being able to recharge en route, which made the risk uneconomic.

Just checked on-line - apparently replacement battery packs (not from Renault) for the Fluence are available at 9K Euros :eek:
 
greendwarf said:
Just checked on-line - apparently replacement battery packs (not from Renault) for the Fluence are available at 9K Euros :eek:

Interesting, but what is that in real money?

(Apologies to the whole of Europe, just couldn't resist.)

I think interesting times are ahead for battery stuff. I'll probably get a home battery in a few years.

(To defend against black-outs, and be able to store during the week and recharge the PHEV when it is home)

Currently, I'm paid more for the power I generate than the power I import, but as retailers keep putting up the price of electricity, it's only a matter of time before it's in my best interest.

Once home battery packs become a standard thing (ten years away maybe?) I'd expect the cost of PHEV batteries to fall a lot.
 
A lot will also depend on the aging profile of a PHEV battery - will it just slowly lose range, or will it fail catastrophically? Assuming that they prove reasonably reliable in absolute terms over a period of perhaps 15 years, just losing range, then I suspect that a lot of cars will just soldier on with the original pack. The original owners will probably be selling them before the range degradation becomes too noticeable and subsequent owners will buy them at a depreciated price to use more as a petrol car with electric transmission. If mine is running reliably ten years from now with a 5 mile EV range, I certainly will not be paying multiple thousands of pounds to replace the battery - I could not possibly recoup that cost in reduced fuel consumption.
 
It's interesting that one of the suggestions of how pure EVs might become more attractive for long journeys is a system of automated battery swapping - no need to stop for a lengthy recharge, just drive up and a couple of minutes later drive off having had a fully charged battery installed. There are many practical difficulties with this idea - it would require a common size and weight battery pack (?packs) in every vehicle, for a start - but the real problem (it seems to me) is this: imagine you've just splurged a load of money on a shiny new electric Merc (or BMW, whatever), a significant chunk of the value of which lies in the battery pack. How happy would you be to swap your battery with a random vehicle, say a 10-year-old electric Dacia?
 
But surely battery swapping is a leasing relationship - a bit like buying a cylinder of Calor Gas? The supplier guarantees to take the pack back and will refurbish it if necessary - you are just paying for the electricity with a contribution towards the maintenance of the battery
 
maby said:
But surely battery swapping is a leasing relationship - a bit like buying a cylinder of Calor Gas?
I doubt you'd be saying that as your new Merc grinds to a halt after 20 miles ...
[I must apologise to jaapv for taking this thread miles off topic :)]
 
1. April 2016
2. GX4hs, pearlescent White
3. Facelift
4. Low BIK and the opportunity to try something different
5. Leeds, UK
6. Project Manager
7. My first EV, looking forward to seeing what the future holds
 
1. end-June 2014
2. Aspire (Australian Top of the range PHEV) - starlight white
3. Don't know what "Facelift" means. Add-ons: Tailgate stainless steel sill protection, slimline weather-shields, front park assistance (a mistake - they're hopeless - beep unnecessarily when stopped at traffic lights, do not beep if approaching a towbar of vehicle in fornt, as the sensors are mounted at corners)
4. Good for my commute of 36kms round-trip with added benefit of the remainder for shopping etc.
5. Melbourne suburbs
6. Car bought when I was still working as a DBA. Now retired, though carrying out small business of software development for a private org, working mostly from home
7. Friend's Prius; later a TESLA test-drive (some car, but out of reach). Also to make use of off-peak electricity, compensated by daytime delivery of solar generation to the grid via my roof-top 3.3KW array of solar panels. Sunny weekends usually sees the PHEV charging off solar panels. Previous vehicle Citroen C5 HDI (smoothest ride!!! Didn't know the Eastern Freeway was so bumpy until I got the PHEV :lol:)
 
1. On 14 May 2016 excited :D .
2. GX4HS 2015 MY Glacier Blue
3. Pre facelift, protection pack and parking sensors F &R. All those screens to play with!
4. Pre heating and cooling. Electric only range better than Prius.
5. Tonbridge, Kent, GB.
6. Electrical Engineer/software Engineer and a geek.
7. I would like every vehicle to be electric (excluding airliners). Had a Prius but no plugin but loved the car and averaged 50 mpg for 2 years of London and M25 driving. Hankering after an electric motorcycle soon so more charging point may be required at home.
 
1. Tuesday 10th May 2016, less than a week in and still loving it.
2. Gx4hs 2015MY, Ruby Black
3. Facelift
4. Cheap to run from my SolarPV for 90% of my journeys (within ev range). 4wd, bags of room and the ICE for trips up the mountains in winter.
5. Aberdeen, UK
6. Air Traffic Controller & part-time Ski & Snowboard Instructor/Performance Coach.
7. Only ever had some extended test drives last summer of pre-facelift Outlander PHEV, Volvo V60PHEV, and BMWi3. Outlander ticked all the boxes.
 
1. Prospective owner by June 2016
2. GX4H
3. Facelift
4. Something a bit different and low BIK tax
5. Edinburgh, Scotland
6. Occupation - Programme Manager in Defence Business - the ones who get blamed when programmes don't run to budget or schedule!
7. Three years with a Lexus RX450 Hybrid + six hours with an Outlander PHEV yesterday

Hi, I have been lurking around this forum for a while, and am really enjoying the information exchange and banter. I have taken the plunge by ordering a GX4H through my company's lease scheme, who are hoping to deliver the car within one month. I look forward to the tax benefits until the government ruins that as well. I really enjoyed a few hours with my local dealer's demonstrator yesterday, and whilst it may have a few idiosyncrasies, I believe the positive features far outweigh these.

Looking forward to joining the club

David
 
1. New owners, April 2016
2. Gx4h
3. Facelift
4. Combination of cheap "commute" (we live 1 mile from our workshop, but aren't able to walk it), needing an automatic, and wanting a new car.
5. Portland, Dorset
6. Specialist vehicle wiring and electronics. We supply custom vehicle wiring looms, mostly for club racers, as well as electronic units (e.g. gauge displays) for these types of car owners.
7. None. We've moved from a pair of highly tuned Subaru Impreza's to a PHEV. Big change!!
 
Hi,

I am a fairly new owner - details below, and over the past few weeks have been going through the various sections of the site with interest, picking up useful information and a number of useful tips along the way.

1. Delivery April 2016
2. GX4h
3. MY16
4. I feel that things seem to be moving against diesel, and since I don't cover a high mileage and the car is always garaged overnight (with available power), it looked as though the car would suit my needs very well.
5. Edinburgh area
6. Retired
7. No previous experience, but have tried though never bought a Prius and a Lexus hybrid in the past. I have been driving diesels for the past 24 years.

GX4h Orient Red
Front and rear sensors, chrome pack, rear bumper protector, bonnet emblem, mud flaps, Osram Night Breakers, Mini 0806 Dash Cam hardwired.
 
1. Owner since April 2016
2. GX5H, Ruby Black
3. Facelift
4. Trips mostly local and wife wanted an SUV style plus PV solar installation provides a high percentage of the charging costs.
5. Weymouth, Dorset
6. Retired
7. No previous experience of EV/REV/PHEV.

The bings and bongs are however driving me to distraction! And no I do not wish to start modifying the speaker etc.....
 
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